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I recently got the Lionel Lincoln Funeral Train and really like the incredible modeling detail of loco and cars.

L F T on display

 

I am interested in the two cars in the extension set (the two rearmost cars in the train shown above - they have two trucks each as opposed to the car that carried the casket that came with the basic set, which has four trucks).  The two extension set cars are identical (without numbers, etc. - absolutely the same nearly as I can determine).  Does anyone know if "non-funeral-car" versions of these cars are available?  They are wonderful models, nice looking, with good detail, great interiors, and good details on the vestibule railings, etc.  The funeral bunting and placards are glued on, so "normal" versions would be easy to manufacture.  Has Lionel done so?  

 

This morning I posted some questions on the Real Trains forum here about the original prototypes.  Many sources say all the cars were early Pullman cars, but the four-truck car that carried Lincoln's body was actually made for the President's use at the Military Railway Shops in Alexandria, VA the year before.   Lionel's model  of that is a very accurate rendering of that early "Air Force One."  

https://ogrforum.com/d...nt/10299794809757756

 The body castings of the two-truck cars in the extension set are identical to that of the body for four-truck casket car: I imagine Lionel made just one mold and used it again for those two, which is fine with me if I could get more of them.  They are wonderful models.  

 

Anyone know if they are available?

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As to availability, the Lincoln items are back on the Lionel RRC web page, so if you don't mind spending $20 to join the club and the $299 (possibly + 6% tax depending on where you live)for the add-ons, I think they are available via that route.  (most dealers seem to only be selling pairs of sets w/add-ons, as that is supposedly how Lionel offered them to the dealers, but I don't think orders directly with Lionel are limited in that way.  They did limit the purchase to 5 of each item when I ordered earlier this year - not that I tested that )

 

As to the cars being identical, I believe structurally you are correct.  I did note that there are differences in the passengers sitting in the cars though.  (I ordered 2 add-on sets, and each of the cars had a "twin" in the other set, so I don't think it's random.)

 

-Dave

 

 

 

My set also has the passengers in opposite seats.  I also figured the factory did that to add a little bit of variation.  

 

I have thought about joining and buying the cars, but I think I will wait.  I may regret this decision, but my thinking is:

- these are handsome cars

- two funeral cars is enough.  I really cars without the bunting, the black paint, etc.  I could buy these and remove that and re-tain, etc., but . . . 

- Lionel has the tooling to produce them

- they'll certainly want to make more sales with this tooling by using it again in the future 

- so they will probably offer them as something else in the future.

Besides, I have so many project backed up right now that if I bought four or six now, they'd sit and wait for a year before i could get to them. 

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