Are these allowed at York

wild mary posted:

Hey slick I never said I'd bring that to York.  I said there's no reason why it wouldn't be allowed.   Hey no harm done.

wild mary posted:

I'll check with the ED but if it's allowed I'll be using it at the spring show.  As far as dirty looks are concerned, I've got pretty thick skin.

Are you going to say now that "spring show" wasn't referring to York?

Hey Matt just drop it  Can't you see we were just having a little fun?

Good catch, Matt. Seems the scooter operator is more concerned with "what can I getaway with" than if the scooter use is an imposition on the rest of us. My whole nit pick is the indifference of some operators.....and we put up with the same indifference driving on the roads. 

Last time I was there, which was quite a while back, getting through the aisles in the blue (I think it was) was really a PITA, even for a healthy person. People would pile up in front of tables 3 & 4 deep and would NOT follow the directional arrows on the floor. The aisles were (in my opinion) too narrow. An extra foot and following the arrows would do wonders.

Simon

Sad to say, but everyone of us are getting older by the minute and we all may need one of these some day. I do feel however that if a persons drivers license has been revoked do to mental or health reason, they should also not be allowed to operate a scooter that could seriously injure someone. A show of a drivers license should be mandatory. JDADDY'S witnessing of a panic confusion incident where the persons mind short circuited to their body part in control could have killed someone. I lost a young friend in my childhood who came out from between parked car on his bicycle in front of an old lady who was slowly coming down the street. When she saw him her mind short circuited to her foot and she stepped down on the gas and drug him and his bicycle under the car for two blocks killing him dead. She probably would have went even further if she didn't come up upon the stop sign at the end of the next block. I much rather see wheel chairs only in a crowd like York.  

Perhaps someone who needs to use these powered chairs can comment on this question: I would assume if you needed one (like my father-in-law did), you would own one, or rent one at home, and take it to York with you. The York rental makes me wonder who really needs one vs "easy way to get around". And don't get me started about "handicapped" parking. I still remember myself going to the store with a cane, after a hip replacement, and watching people walk briskly away from their HC space.

Joe--it all depends on the underlying health condition.   My uncle does not own a scooter however he requires one whenever he will have to do a lot of walking such as visiting a museum.   In these cases he rents one.   He has neuropathy in both feet and is unable to walk long distances.   While he isn't into the hobby and doesn't attend York, I'm sure there are those in the same position.

As for myself, I have disc issues with my back.  I could easily see someone like myself needing one should my condition flare up as I would never be able to walk the distances required at York.   I do know of one person who attends York who uses a scooter for that very reason (though he owns his).   While my back issues are not noticeable to anyone who sees me they are very real when the condition flares up.   Hope this helps answer your question.

-Greg

Joe I'm 74 yrs old, have COPD , have spinal stenosis, have arthritic knees and have had both hips replaced so my electric scooter is a necessity  not a convenience as one poster alluded to.  My scooter breaks down to three components that fit into the trunk of my car for travel.  Without the scooter my quality of life would be greatly diminished.  My scooter allows me to go shopping, go to the post office, walk my dog, go fishing and go to the local train shows.  I've even taken it on two cruises and on flights.  So the next time you folks see someone with an electric scooter don't be so judgemental; be happy it's not you.  

Joe and others,

i have a handicap placard from the state but if you see me you may not think anything is wrong but I also have lower back issues and both knees are rubbing bone on bone which limits my walking.

I don't use a chair or a cane but I will rest allot by sitting. 

So please don't judge a book by its cover and have  a little sympathy for people in chairs and others who move slowly and help if you can.

I go to York to have fun and nothing will get in the way of that.

Dave 

I am in no way criticizing Wild Mary/Nick's use of a scooter, and agree with him 100% that we should strive not to be judgemental of those who use them. We have no idea what a person's underlying conditions are that may require the use of one.

OK, thank you.

Thanks Matt.

Joe, If someone has a handicap plate or card there is a reason.  I have a permanent card. Doctor's don't give them out for nothing wrong.

I hope l have sympathy for these things

I saw a guy park in a handicap spot, jump out of his car & run into the coffee shop.  Asked him why he does that and he points to the handicap card hanging from the rear view mirror and says, "because I can." 

Then I saw an elderly gent park about eighty feet away and shuffle into the coffee shop so I asked why he does that and he smiles and says, "because I still can!"  

as l have had to use the store provided one (often not charged and a nuisance) after surgery, and my brother had to use one for medical reasons.  His l have helped get on and off a plane and in and out of rental car trunks, and they are a burden to fool with, for their owners.  The narrow aisle condition exacerbates the scooter problem because it forces scooters to the middle of the aisle, to avoid the chairs, which makes it impossible to pass one in the aisle, and that is of the concientious ones who don't slowly cruise the center of the aisle to see everything on both sides, at THEIR convenience.  There ain't no passing lanes.   I have previously commented on "family reunions" in or at the end of aisles, blocking them, and usually the only place to pass.  Isn't there some hassle about using your own scooter on the grounds?  Using a familiar one sounds safer than a strange, rented one.

Through multiple surgeries and extended healings.  (foot surgeries can take a long time to heal)  I have  had my time in a scooter and they can be a great blessing.  

Scooters and guns are not bad.  Certain people are bad.

My favorite scooter was a small trim narrow one with a bag hanger which made maneuvering helpful while grocery shopping.  Having spent months at a time in a scooter I have a better understanding of that situation.  When I have a scooter patron looking over my table I hand things of interest to them to hold and inspect.  Individuals handicaps can vary widely.

One thing I do not understand:  some stores who offer scooter use to their customers do not allow them  to take the scooter to their car.  So merchant,  can  the handicapped person suddenly walk easily when they  leave your store?

Our local grocery store used to have a kid follow me to the car and then drive the scooter back to the foyer.

eddie g posted:

Joe, If someone has a handicap plate or card there is a reason.  I have a permanent card. Doctor's don't give them out for nothing wrong.

I'm sure that is the case the vast majority of the time, but I know for a fact that they get "loaned" to family and friends, as well as being kept in the "family car" that others use.

Joe

That's certainly the case. When I taught at the local state university they would not honor the "blue hangers", you had to go to security with your documentation and get a university issued handicapped card for parking.

Never had to use one (only a walker) but I think the scooters are great. A local guy tears up the main drag in the road with his pennant flying. Clearly makes a big difference in his life.

I don't think you're allowed to bring your own scooter to York. I think you have to rent it from the guy next to the brown hole. And Insurance liability thing with the fairgrounds I believe. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure on that

Papa: l hope you called TCA, York, before you brought your power chair all the way there from California, if just doing the show and no other applications.  Also, there was way more Marx there than l saw last time l was there, so hope you had good hunting, and made the Marx meet, too...