Have a line on an Atlas F3 (3 rail) and was wondering how involved is it to convert it to 2 rail? Are there NWSL drop in axles? Can it even be done?
Cheers
-Mark
PS I did a search and found some older topics but nothing current
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Have a line on an Atlas F3 (3 rail) and was wondering how involved is it to convert it to 2 rail? Are there NWSL drop in axles? Can it even be done?
Cheers
-Mark
PS I did a search and found some older topics but nothing current
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Mark, (Joe Foehrkolb- Baldwin Forge and Machine) can 2R this locomotive for you as he's 2R'd many 3R locos.
There's a lot more to it than just dropping in axles from NWSL due to the vertical motors and gearboxes. You have to retain the gearboxes/axles and press on new wheels, plus insulate the wheels from the axles. I believe the axle ends had to be machined to accept the NWSL wheels too. Doable yes, but not simple without the proper equipment.
I have an ABA set of Lionel scale F units that Joe converted to 2R for me that I'm going to sell (less shells) if anyone is interested. Also, have all the TMCC garbage that was taken out. I have other plans for these shells.
Butch
I looked at the Atlas parts link I have and didn't see the F3 listed, but they do have the 2-rail truck part number listed here:
http://www.atlaso.com/partspdf...P-7_2rail_Trucks.pdf
Maybe someone who knows can confirm if they're the same part. If you go backwards from the link I provided you can probably find other parts you may need.
Their revised site has yet another link to parts, but it's not the same link as the one I show.
Not 2-rail but when I first got my unpowered Atlas GP9 I found out I could put a pair of MTH trucks/motors/motor mounts under the chassis and it ran great, even installed PS2. Since then I was able to order the "Power Transfer Gear Assembly" and power the Atlas trucks using the MTH motors and mounts, without any mods. I switched back to the Atlas trucks because they have better detail on the sideframes than the Railking trucks I used.
It won't hurt to call Atlas and ask if they have the parts for sale, it'll be either yeah or nay
The other issue is mounting the pilot. Parts available from Atlas? I myself am torn since I need Phase II with 2 portholes and chicken wire grills. Do I wait for undec Atlas 2 rail or get P&D hobby with the Pittman drive? Decisions decisions
Below is a link to a switcher that Joe converted. It shows the truck/gearboxes well and you can see the Micarta insulating strips between the axle and wheels. Joe also attaches the pilot to the shell as part of his F conversion and added Kadees to mine. But, I want to get away from the vertical drives. It's a nice installation and conversion when Joe is done I just want slower speeds and more control than the vertical drives allow me.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTH-di...;hash=item33898f54ad
Butch
Hello Butch, Do you still have the TMCC garbage from the Lionel ABA set? If so, would you like to sell it. I have some conventional 3 rail units I want to add the TMCC and railsounds to. Thanks, Rick
Hello Butch, Do you still have the TMCC garbage from the Lionel ABA set? If so, would you like to sell it. I have some conventional 3 rail units I want to add the TMCC and railsounds to. Thanks, Rick
If he doesn't want to tell me how many you want. I have over a dozen, I think, some TMCC and some Legacy.
Hello rdunniii, How much do you want for the Legacy electronics? I want to do a pair of K line e8 AA units. I want full sound and control for each unit. What engine did they come out of and what all is included? (control only, or control, sound speaker, lights, electocouplers?? Also, I am brand new to this forum, how do I get in contact with you directly? Thanks! Rick
Hi Rick,
I just got back online this morning and saw your post. If rdunniii has the parts you need that might be the best way to go. Mine came back in a bag from Joe and I haven't look at them since. Not exactly sure what is in it. I'll be happy to pull it out and check if you can't find what you need.
Butch
Do you want the entire unit minus the shell, pilot and fuel tanks or just the power drives or just the electronics?
I have F3s, F7s and PAs I have just used the shell, pilot and fuel tank.
I would be interested in the whole unit minus the shells, pilots and tanks. Either tmcc or legacy f3s or f7s or PAs shoot me some prices so I can think it over. Ive got a whole bunch of projects on the bench. If you want to email me direct the address is ramtrainguy@hotmail.com
The other issue is mounting the pilot. Parts available from Atlas? I myself am torn since I need Phase II with 2 portholes and chicken wire grills. Do I wait for undec Atlas 2 rail or get P&D hobby with the Pittman drive? Decisions decisions
I am pretty sure that Atlas 3R F units came with fixed pilots in the box.
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