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I just realized my powered Atlas F3 B unit does not have a back up light.  I looked at the features listed for Lionel's Legacy powered B units and a back up light is not listed for them either.  I am curious if the prototype B units did not have back up lights.  Just curious. 

 

FWIW the recently released Atlas F units are very impressive.  The sounds and the speed steps are significantly better than previous releases, in my opinion.  I would love for someone to do a side by side test with these Atlas F units and Legacy F units.  I am betting the Legacy would edge out the Atlas engines in the sound and smoothness of speed domains....but it would be close.

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I think the consistency of the speed regulation would be better for Legacy.  The ERR Cruise Commander is very good, but it doesn't match the Legacy cruise for matching speeds of multiple locomotives.  The ERR CC is an analog system based on back-EMF, the Legacy cruise has the tach encoder to allow precise regulation to a specific speed, as well as to match speeds of multiple units in an MU configuration.

 

The new ERR sounds are based on RailSounds 5, and are a major step up from RailSounds 4, but they still don't match the Legacy sounds, at least IMO.

 

You could add a backup light if you really wanted one. ERR has a dummy locomotive board that allows directional lights, electrocouplers, and even smoke if desired.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by T4TT:

I just realized my powered Atlas F3 B unit does not have a back up light.  I looked at the features listed for Lionel's Legacy powered B units and a back up light is not listed for them either.  I am curious if the prototype B units did not have back up lights.  Just curious. 

 

 

I believe that back up lights on B units ( and A units as well) was a railroad option, and not all railroads may have had them on their B units.

 

I would suggest you look for photos of the prototype B units for your railroad to see if they had back up lights.

 

Stuart

 

I have one booster unit with a "backup light" -- a powered Atlas Erie-Built B-unit (which also has sound).  It can be hostled like the real 90A, with the bell ringing and the engine revving.

 

In real life, when railroad ordered cab and booster units, a rear headlight on blind ends was optional, and, if used, was, in most cases, applied by the railroad.  On the Santa Fe, our F7B's did not have headlights.  However, the railroad did have some portable headlights which could  be hung on the booster unit (or on the blind end of a cab unit) and were then plugged into the m-u receptacle.  The power for rear headlights comes through the m-u cables from the controlling unit of the consist, not from the rear unit.  We kept such a headlight in the phone booth at the main track connection of a spur at Snyder, Texas, for crews to use if they had to go up the spur with a bobtail consist.  They had to back the engine one way.

 

I was never on a foreign line booster unit with a permanently applied headlight, but there would have been a headlight switch at the hostler control stand inside the engine room by the center (hinged) porthole, so it could have been manually controlled when hostling the unit, and would have, like any other permanent headlight, have responded to the rear headlight switch on the controlling unit of an m-ued consist.

 

Santa Fe did add a rear headlight to some FTA units which were modified for single-unit local or branch line service, but the headlight was a Golden Glow barrel headlight reclaimed from retired steam engines and mounted at the rear on the roof.

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