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OK, so I learned the "at least one straight track section before turnout" lesson the hard way last night.  I had a turnout right off of an O-48 curve and while my RK sd70 would generally make it, my RK K4s picked the switch everytime after the tender crossed.  The rear truck just wasn't having any of it.  So... I added a 10 inch section before the turnout and now all seems well (note that I use Fastrack and all switches are now O-60).  This leads me to my question:

 

Even though my K4S has made it through every time since the change, it still doesn't sound too happy about it.  I hear things sliding and shifting all the way from the passenger cars to the engine.  How many of you regularly back into turnouts?  Seems like I would be a common practice, but I'm wondering just how common it really is.  Ultimately I'd love to have more space before the turnout, but my inside sidings will be too short if I and another section and I'm pretty much out of layout space at the moment.  

 

Thanks!

 

-Eric

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S-curves are the bane of railroads, model and real. Our 3 rail equipment is much more forgiving of them than scale 2 rail trains are, but even for us there are limits, as you found out. Rather than have the turnout placed in the straightaway after the turn, you might consider using an O-48 turnout in the turn, with the diverging leg going straight into your yard. Anything you can do now to eliminate S-curves is something you will thank yourself for later.

I do this in my O-60 loop with good results.  The problem is that I'm trying to make a 2-switch "ladder" in my inner loop and I've run out of space.  I can't go any deeper into the loop and my sidings are dangerously short as it is.  I did manage to re-engineer it and I found an additional 10 inches of length for the inner loop which preserves my minimums with a little (and I mean little...) buffer.  I can't avoid the 'S' created by the first rung n the ladder.  The second rung is the one I'm using for the K4S and that seems to be OK.  My RK SD70ACE will take this 'S' on the first run in stride while pushing 5 RK well cars into the siding, so I can only hope my TBD RK Scale F-3 AA combo will be as forgiving.  

I use 3 O-27 profile Lionel switches (with 0-42 curves on my main level and 0-27 on my upper loop). 2 switches are on the main level and 1 on the upper level. I can run all of my engines that fit through them, front and back just fine except for the switch on my upper loop. Backing into it, which I don't do often, is hit or miss. Each engine behaves differently on that switch in reverse but my Railking Rugged Rails F3 picks the switch and derails no matter what in reverse regardless of speed. This is understandable due to the fact the switch is up against an 0-27 curve with no "buffer" section of straight track. Sorry to hear of the derailments with your (Imperial?) K4. Mine has been a great engine and hasn't derailed due to track problems except in the case of operator error!

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