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 Hello,

I am looking for a scale UP turbine big-blow or veranda, I was wondering what all of you thought of the different releases, Proto1 or 2, or Lionel. I am working with a price of up to 500 dollars, and the only command control I have is TMCC.

      I read somewhere the the early MTH verandas were recalled for tracking reasons. Also remember reading the Lionel veranda's are troublesome, but they go for over 500+, but have TMCC. 

      Big blows produced by MTH I came up with are the older proto1 MT-2124 LP and 20-2615-1 proto2, best I can tell from pictures look identical, but I could be wrong.

Kevin R.L.

 

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I saw a mth proto1 UP #75 veranda at a train show last month for $275. That's the cheapest i've ever seen one. I've been thinking about buying a proto1 #75 veranda turbine and doing the proto2 upgrade. The old proto1 verandas had a 4 can motor drive system while the new ones were cheaped out with a 2 motor system.

I owned both, bought used.  The MTH was an early one and even though the trucks had been adjusted, it still gave tracking problems but I modified it myself and it ran okay.  It had PS1 board problems, and, particularly since I had the Lionel, I just took it apart for parts.  

 

The Lionel has never given me a moment's problem.  It's sound and features are getting a bit obsolete now, but it is a greater runner.  At the time I bought it, and think it was the all-time pulling champ that OGR or CTT had tested - it just pulls like a fiend, and it looks SO good.  A point about the Verandas - the way the trucks double up on swivel sets, this is about the longest loco you can get that looks good on 72" curves - it does not stick out very far or look wildly unnatural like the DD35s or some others or articulated steamers, even though it is a monster. 

 

The Lionel looked a little better to me - how it rode its trucks, etc.  

 

I would bet dollars to donuts that within the next year or two, one or both of these companies will re-issue a more modern version using variations on their original castings, etc., but with much updated control and sound.    I'd love to have a Legacy (or Vision) Veranda - would buy it in a heartbeat, and would seriously consider a PS3 premier MTH Veranda (the reason for my preference being that recent experience with both lines is that Lionel sound is far superior to MTH and that is quite important on a turbine, I think). But those would cost 2x what a used one costs now. 

I have to agree with both John and Lee as I also have a Lionel Veranda which I purchased when I first got into the hobby although I paid dearly for it, way more then $500 for sure.  I would also purchase a VL version in a minute as todays technology would make it a must have. 

 

Sure hope Lionel does one soon although it might take awhile for it to ship but should be well worth the wait just like some of their recent shipments.

I have a lot of them. The Lionel Veranda is my favorite. They all run great. Maybe these pics will help. I also have a MTH Veranda but that is going to the Buy / Sell board soon.

 

Donald

 

Lionel Veranda Turbine, MTH Coal Turbine, MTH Propane Turbine and MTH "Big Blow".

 

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MTH Coal Turbine, MTH Propane Turbine and MTH "Big Blow".

 

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I have Lionel's Veranda and it's a horse.  If you want something that has pulling power and looks absolutely massive, then this the one you want.  I forget what it weighs but if I recall it's over 10 lbs. w/o the tender.  I think I got the last one Grand Central LTD had when they came out.  It will be one of your favorite engines.  If you have any rr buffs around they know the "big blow" when they see one.

 

Ken

"while the new ones were cheaped out with a 2 motor system."


Actually the new Veranda Turbine from MTH hasn't shipped yet because it still has four motors and needs the PS3 Slave Unit.


I have MTH turbines in Veranda PS1, on order for PS2/3

Propane Turbine which is a PS2 engine

Big Blow 8500 HP model, upgraded to PS2

Coal Turbine PS1 and PS2


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