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We are building period correct Reading block signals using dual color common cathode ultrabright LEDs. Our previous signals were controlled using cuts in the outside rail. From there we used track voltage through a rectifier to trip DC relays.  We are now going to have more signals and want to make a standard control board. The LEDs only draw 30ma at 5vdc. We will still be using the cut outside rail for control of the blocks.

Our concern is messing up the DC signal. In the past like I said we used track power converted to dc. I've also use a small dc power supply and controlled it via the outside rail. We are even open to using a logic circuit instead of relays. AC relays are an option but are less available and generally more expensive than dc coil relays. We don't want to use infrared or optical detection because of reliability. So I'm looking for feedback on known working systems that won't degrade the DCS signal.  Also we use the block signals for actual operation, not just to look good. It's a large layout with long tunnels, blind curves, and multiple trains on the same mainline.

Thanks much,

Dave North Schuylkill High Railers
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If you put a 33uh choke in series with the power lead from the track, it should block the DCS signal and not cause excessive degradation.  This is the common fix for locomotives and lighted passenger cars that cause DCS signal issues, it should work just as well for your purposes.

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Sharing the outside common should not degrade the signal. Connect one of the  leads of  the separate DC relay power supply to the common rail (+ or -) and use the insulated rail to activate the DC relay coil or LED. Adding a capacitor across the relay coil will reduce chatter. The DC  relay circuit and track power circuit will work independent of each other. LEDs normally pull 20ma. The DC relays I use pull 25ma at 12 volts and have DPDT 15 amp contacts.

 

Dale H

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If you take a cruise through eBay, you can find suitable relays for very little money.

 

For instance, here's an 8 channel relay board that I just picked up for an Arduino project for $14.49 shipped: C:US:3160" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...me=ADME:LC:US:3160

 

These can be controlled by a simple low current input or logic output.  The key thing is they have eight 10A relays on them for the price.   They are opto-isolated and each have an indicator LED on-board.  For less than $2 a relay, you get a complete board ready to use!

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