I have an bing set of cars that all have different markings. I know some one posted the markings before with the rest that they used. each of the cars have a different mark on them. would they have done that or are they from different years?
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Different markings - different eras - there is some overlap but if they are all different then you have an ensemble of the eras.
all the cars match and look alike that is what makes me wonder.
When you say they match and look alike what do you mean? Bing exports to the US and Canada have the same litho pre and post WWI. The only major difference are the beer reefers - pre-WWI they have the word "beer" as part of the side advertising. Post WWI the word "beer" is blotted out. Towards the end of their exporting there were some mechanical changes in the trucks and wheels but that is about all.
Thank you Steve. As soon as I saw this thread I thought of yours with the table of logos; I went looking for it but could not find it in a search - I didn't think of using "european". I wonder if you edited your thread's title line by adding "Bing, Marklin, Bub..." a clumsy search like mine might find it easier? Your post on this is such a helpful one - it should be in the "permanent" threads at the top of Tinplate.
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Steve
There were 3 basic Bing trademarks. The first showed an entwined GBN (Gebruder Bing Nuremberg)letters surrounded by a circle. This was succeeded sometime during the early 1900s by a diamond enclosing the three letters GBN. The most popular was the later Bing Werke mark showing a horizontal B on top of a stylized W. This mark appeared during the end of the the 1910-1920 decade and continued until the firm's demise in the early 1930s.
Lew Schneider
Some of you Bing collectors may find this trademark interesting.Found on the base of a gantry crane.
A combination of the GBN diamond and the horizontal BW, plus MADE IN BAVARIA.
English text for US/British market? Neat how it says Bavaria not Germany.
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I will look at the cars tomorrow and show you guys which of the markings they are.
I've never seen the combination trademark before. According to the Gardner & Morris
Illustrated Encyclopedia of Metal Toys, the dates were bit different than I reported
earlier. This source says that the diamond with GBN was 1902 - 1906 followed by the entwined GBN in a circle 1906-1919, a simple mark showing GBN Bavaria with GB on top then an N below then Bavaria below 1912-1923 and finally the horizontal B on top of the
W 1923-34.
Lew Schneider
I can not get a good pic of the markings but here are the ones that are like them one of the cars has number 10 marking on it. the other has number 11 markings on it. and the third car has the number 10 marking above the number 11 marking. I hope this makes since. what does this mean? are they the same age or are they from different sets?? they look alike to me.
picture has been added of the cars. any info would be wonderful.
They appear to have the same degree of wear and the roof colors match. Two of the cars are lithoed to look like later steel cars whereas the baggage is lithoed to look like wood sheathing. I've seen sets with a mix of wood and steel so that's not an issue. I do find the mix of ID markings curious but, if it were me, I'd say I had a set and go on from there.
That is what I was thinking. thank you to ever one for your help.
It might well be a set, but the cars were probably produced at different times. The car(s)
with the later Bing Werke mark are definitely post WWI, whereas any of the cars without the Bing Werke B/W would have been produced earlier. WWI of course created all sorts of chaos so there might well have been Post WWI sets sold incorporating early and late
cars.
Lew Schneider