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had MTH..then bought a Lionel cylindrical hopper..now I bought an ATLAS CYLINDRICAL HOPPER...

criteria..must have sprung trucks

this atlas has alleged sprung trucks..is there something I am missing?

when you press down on the car there is no movement..but if you press on the cross piece on the truck it moves..seems there is a design flaw...when I press down on the MTH or Lionel..I can see the spring compress

but not on the Atlas...

whats the deal?

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Originally Posted by John Korling:
Originally Posted by 1drummer:

but springs are just for looks on Atlas..

Springs are also just for looks on other brands too.  Aside from whatever visual satisfaction is gained by seeing the springs compress when you press down on them, there's no significant operational advantage one way or the other.

It's certainly that way on reefers _ I mix Atlas, MTH and Lionel and really, I can't see enough different to matter..  All of them roll basically unsupported by springs.  

Originally Posted by AMCDave:

Springs are pretty to look at.....the force needed to make them 'work' never happens as they run around the layout. Scale O3r trucks that are equalized via truck sideframes pivoting work as well or better.....IMHO

 


Very true, the only "force" that would be apparent is if a load is put in the car that's heavy enough to compress the springs, and that would result in a terribly heavy car or cars for the train to pull.  Again, there's no net benefit aside from the visual appeal of springs as a separately applied detail, in which calling Atlas O's trucks "sprung" is not misleading.

I beg to differ...
On an O scale train, pulling 35 rolling stock up a 4% grade, around a 40+" radius..on Gargraves track..those little springs compress and keep the train from derailing..and keep the outer wheels in contact with the rail...
And in my semi protypical universe I want springs that compress when I push down in the car..like my MTH and 1 Lionel rolling stock do...

I expected more from Atlas..they make nice HO turn outs..But I guess rolling stock is too difficult.....
Originally Posted by 1drummer:
I beg to differ...
On an O scale train, pulling 35 rolling stock up a 4% grade, around a 40+" radius..on Gargraves track..those little springs compress and keep the train from derailing..and keep the outer wheels in contact with the rail...


 

I suspect you're more likely experiencing a placebo effect much more so than than any actual practical functionality the springs may provide. 

 

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