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I have a siding that I want to change for use with bump and go trolley and gang car.

One end is in a tunnel and a real bumper is fine.

The other end connects to the mainline.  A bumper would be out of place.

I want to conceal something cleaver, to act a bumper for these cars, under a box car so that it looks like the box car is hit.

Ideally it would be removable so the siding could be used.

Get you thinking caps on!

 

Thank you.

Rich

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How about drilling 2 small holes and using some short dowels(or maybe rods with electrical tape around them to protect from scratching up the bumper on the trolley too much)?

 

Insert dowels for bump n go, remove for normal use.  The holes in the track bed probably wouldn't be too noticeable.

 

These would have to be slightly far away from the boxcar if you don't want the trolley to actually hit the coupler on the boxcar.  Not sure if that ruins the illusion for you or not.  (Though I see your drawing seems to be missing the coupler on that end anyway, so maybe a missing coupler is part of the plan?)

 

Then again, if you want, it may be possible to do something similar but oriented so as to keep the truck on the boxcar stationary (like the dowels under the truck, maybe right up against an axle), but that might be a bit of a risk to the boxcar if you kept hitting the coupler with the bumper of a bump n go or #50..

 

-Dave

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If willing to modify the trolley, you could replace the internal sliding reversal switch with an electronic toggle circuit.  The circuit would toggle when it detects a magnet placed on the track at each end.  Some trolleys require a vigorous speed to insure reversal on the bump; this can give passengers whiplash.  An electronic toggle circuit allows the trolley to run more slowly which might improve the effect if your siding length is limited.

I would use a gondola and pass a bolt up through the platform.  You would either drill a hole through the gondola, or on some models, you can probably run the bolt right up through the truck and into the gondola body.  Then you can just snug the nut up and the trolley can hit the coupler all it wants.  It might be fun to fill the gondola with coal, as the shock from the trolley hit might be enough to jar some loose.  When you want to use the siding again just remove the bolt.  Make sure to use a fender washer on the underside.  

May I ask why you would want the trolley to hit a box car or any other car for that matter? Unless you are going for the Gomez Addams effect, don't you think that just doesn't look right?

 

Instead, would it be possible to mount something on the underside of the trolley's bumper that could contact something mounted low nearer the rail?

Last edited by Big Jim
Originally Posted by Montclaire:

He said he wants to use a siding for various bump-n-go cars but he wants to retain the siding for future use.

And your point is?

 

He also said..."I want to conceal something cleaver, to act a bumper for these cars". Now to me, Clever is not running into a box car, but, that's just me.

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I figure on rotating the truck to put the original coupler out of harms way.
 
Originally Posted by Dave45681:

How about drilling 2 small holes and using some short dowels(or maybe rods with electrical tape around them to protect from scratching up the bumper on the trolley too much)?

 

Insert dowels for bump n go, remove for normal use.  The holes in the track bed probably wouldn't be too noticeable.

 

These would have to be slightly far away from the boxcar if you don't want the trolley to actually hit the coupler on the boxcar.  Not sure if that ruins the illusion for you or not.  (Though I see your drawing seems to be missing the coupler on that end anyway, so maybe a missing coupler is part of the plan?)

 

Then again, if you want, it may be possible to do something similar but oriented so as to keep the truck on the boxcar stationary (like the dowels under the truck, maybe right up against an axle), but that might be a bit of a risk to the boxcar if you kept hitting the coupler with the bumper of a bump n go or #50..

 

-Dave

 

That's part of the fun of making it look like its crashing into the box car
 
Originally Posted by stan2004:

If willing to modify the trolley, you could replace the internal sliding reversal switch with an electronic toggle circuit.  The circuit would toggle when it detects a magnet placed on the track at each end.  Some trolleys require a vigorous speed to insure reversal on the bump; this can give passengers whiplash.  An electronic toggle circuit allows the trolley to run more slowly which might improve the effect if your siding length is limited.

 

"May I ask why you would want the trolley to hit a box car or any other car for that matter?"
 
It's not going to hit the car, just look like it.
Pure whimsy for a museum and children to enjoy.
 
 
 
Originally Posted by Big Jim:

May I ask why you would want the trolley to hit a box car or any other car for that matter? Unless you are going for the Gomez Addams effect, don't you think that just doesn't look right?

 

Instead, would it be possible to mount something on the underside of the trolley's bumper that could contact something mounted low nearer the rail?

 

I don't like the look of these banging into a bumper on the double ended siding.   A bumper 6" from a switch looks odd and I've seen it at another museum. It's not much cleverer than banging into a more discreet item under the box car. (Which probably happens more often than the bumpers in the prototype world.)
 
I'm looking for something kids will get a laugh from.
 
Originally Posted by Big Jim:
Originally Posted by Montclaire:

He said he wants to use a siding for various bump-n-go cars but he wants to retain the siding for future use.

And your point is?

 

He also said..."I want to conceal something cleaver, to act a bumper for these cars". Now to me, Clever is not running into a box car, but, that's just me.

 

Originally Posted by RichO:
I don't like the look of these banging into a bumper on the double ended siding.   A bumper 6" from a switch looks odd and I've seen it at another museum.

 

But don't you think that's coming from your perspective only, and you may be incorrectly assuming children and visitors would think the same way?

I'm sure there are a lot of kids that would rather see the train do a Barrel roll and fly off the table and out the window like their favorite video game, but you can't please everyone.
 
 
 
Originally Posted by John Korling:
Originally Posted by RichO:
I don't like the look of these banging into a bumper on the double ended siding.   A bumper 6" from a switch looks odd and I've seen it at another museum.

 

But don't you think that's coming from your perspective only, and you may be incorrectly assuming children and visitors would think the same way?

 

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