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Tonight, I was checking for dead track by slowly rolling an MTH passenger car (premier) backwards on a stub track/siding and thru a switch that was already set to this siding.

As the passenger car passed backwards over the switch I saw a spark, which I have mentioned in a previous post, when trains pass over this switch.

Then, after clearing the switch, I pushed the car forward with the intent to go back into the same stub track/siding.

Well, the front wheels cleared the switch, and now with the car MIDWAY thru the switch with the rear wheels still on the first part of the switch and the front already on the siding, the switch changed back to straight "on its own"!

As a result, there was a buzzing sound, then a static type sparking sound, then the circuit breaker popped on the Z-1000 power brick.

I smelled burning, the same kind of burning smell when I have had a RealTrax switch go bad in the past.

Upon examination, the module with the green and red lights that snaps into the side of the switch was the origin of the burning smell.

There is a metal magnet/pipe(?) with plastic around it, that matches up with a similar piece inside the switch, when you connect this piece to the switch by inserting it.

It was black and burnt on the metal end of the magnet/pipe(?) of the module with the green/red lights on it.

The switch no longer works and I am so ticked....$65 down the drain!

 

Thoughts on why it did this?

I noticed in the past, that sometimes it took 2 or 3 attempt before the switch would move and "stay" set to the siding without wanting to flip instantly back.

But, this time it waited a few seconds before it switched back unexpectedly.

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I have had one of my RealTrax switches go bad too with similar symptoms however I did not have the burning on the motor but on the red(hot) lead on the circuit board underneath the switch blew and turned black.  I originally fixed it by wiring around it but I did end up just replacing the switch about a year later.  I believe the passenger car wheels can be out of gauge just enough to short on the curved part of the switch that would cause this, however I am not positive.  Take the bottom off of your switch and see if the small board has a burned spot. The top switch shows the white plastic switching mechanism still in place while the bottom one shows the board underneath with the white plastic pieces removed.  

 

 

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Bobby;

Thanks for posting those. I wondered why my 2-8-0 occasionally jumped the switches even after I ensured the point was tight against the outer rail.

Now to get some styrene...

 

I did the fix for arcing you speak of in a temporary way.

Clean the arc areas with alcohol.

Cut 1/4" strips of Duct tape and apply them to the areas that show arcing.

In 2 years I haven't had one come off or arc.

Note, these problems are worse on smaller radius switches. The O-72 switches seem to not need as much tinkering.

I think that the sparking of train wheels and pilot truck frames on switch rails is not solely due to the switch design. Yes, the switch designs are not all they should be, but locomotives and rolling stocks are at fault as well. Moreover, switch problems are prevalent in all brands of sectional tracks.

 

Our O-Gauge hobby needs uniform product standards for track gauge, wheel profiles and wheel gauge control. One might argue, "Hey! Lionel didn't need standards in the good old days." That's true as Lionel bought its competition out, so the whole post war periodic through the mid-1990s didn't need standards. But now we have MTH, Weaver, Williams, Atlas, Bachmann, RMT and some others making O-gauge trains, each of their own designs. This is not a good situation for the Beta Testers (AKA the Consumer) who mix brands.

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