Cab 1L issue with Legacy

The locomotive is probably the issue; the smoke controller in the loco should be responding to the #8 or #9 command from the Cab1-L.  Try this to help sort out the problem:  Set the Legacy remote for this loco to CAB-1 mode.  Then see if the loco will control smoke from the cab-2 #8 or #9 key.

Thank You for your reply.

Using the Legacy remote, Legacy engine in Cab 1 mode.........no smoke control whatsoever.

Using the Cab 1L remote, Legacy engine in Cab 1 mode....no smoke control whatsoever.

I placed the engine back into Legacy mode........and smoke is fully functional with Legacy remote........but not with Cab 1L.

I put the engine smoke level at Low in Legacy and it stays the same using the Cab 1L.

However, as mentioned, I have no control of the smoke this way in Cab 1 L.

The engine just continally stays smoking.

The same behaviour exists with a Legacy diesel.

Cab 1L does it's job but not with the smoke, at least for me.

Can anyone else try this and post back?

Thank You

I have a similar issue with a Legacy engine where the smoke switch has to be ON to have smoke control but it comes on every time I apply track power so I have to key in the engine ID start it up and shut it off even if I don't want to run it. If I set the switch to OFF I have no smoke control.

I have Legacy and TMCC engines and can't seem to get consistent smoke control out of any of them.

I recall an issue with the legacy smoke control with these ten wheelers when they first came out.

I'm not sure if it was on this forum or the "other" magazine forum, but folks were setting the smoke via TMCC and then would run it via legacy. Otherwise the loco was shipped back to Lionel to change the defective component, not sure if it was the regulator or another board.

We had a 10-wheeler at the club that the regulator bit the dust and shorted.  We got LOTS of smoke for a very short time, then nothing...  I wish I had a video, it put the fabled MTH smoke to shame, but only for 20-30 seconds.

Soo,

Sorry, but it is not the Cab1-L.  The Legacy loco should respond to the #8 or #9 key (off/on) commands.  The confirmation is when you run the Cab-2 in Cab1 mode the problem is also apparent.

From RickO's post, it must be that some Legacy locos don't seem to be working as expected.  I would contact Lionel CS and ask about your particular locos and what they recommend.

Thank You all for the replies.

I did send back my Ten Wheeler shortly after I received it back in the day for a smoke issue, in fact twice.  It does work well now in Legacy mode.

The Legacy diesel I mentioned also behaves this way.

What are the odds that I would have 2 engines with exactly the same issue.....

If anyone could run a test and see how their Legacy engines respond to the Cab 1L - 8 - 9 smoke buttons........would be extra evidence to possibly solve this issue.

Maybe it is an issue with the Cab 1L or maybe just my engines.

Thanks Again

Dave

For the CAB1, and presumable the CAB1-L, here's what the manual says.

To adjust the smoke output, bring the locomotive to a stop, press AUX1, AUX2, 9, then press L for low smoke, M for medium smoke, or H for high smoke. Press AUX2 again to complete the setting. See page 13 for the location of these buttons on the CAB-1 Remote Controller.

Your locomotive will remember its new setting until you change it again.
It may take up to a minute for the smoke unit to heat up or cool down

Have you tried a reset?

If your locomotive is unresponsive to your commands in the TrainMaster Command Control environment, we recommend that you follow this procedure to reset your locomotive. All factory default settings will be restored when you reprogram the locomotive.

1. Slide the Command reverse unit switch to the PROG position. See Figure 2 on page 11.
2. Plug in and connect your Command Base.
3. Place your locomotive and tender on the track, then power up the track.
4. Press ENG and enter the locomotive’s ID#.
5. Press SET.
6. Press ENG and enter the locomotive’s ID# again.
7. Press AUX1.
8. Enter 1 for this particular locomotive.
9. Turn off track power and wait ten seconds.
10. Slide the Command reverse unit switch back to the RUN position.

At this point, your locomotive has been reset. Restore power to the track and operate the locomotive as usual. Be sure to use the ID# entered in Step 4.

See UPDATE in first original post for solution.

Soo Line

The Alt1 before the number pad is the norm for the old CAB1 or the CAB1L, makes sense.  I just hit it automatically, so I never noticed an issue.

That was required for even a CAB-1 if you had hit certain other pads first.  As John says, normally just hit Aux1 first out of habit.  G