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First timer, having  recently changed out my tubular track to Fastrack, including remote switches (15), loops (3). blocks (around 10), remote activating tracks, etc.   I have conventional locomotives, and this is what I want to run using variable power supplied to the track.  Initially, I will not attempt to isolate blocks and loops, the  intent being to just make a locomotive operate using a single CAB remote (again, in Manual/Conventional Mode).  I also have a couple ZW 275 transformers that I hope eventually to set aside. I have no reverse loops.

I began my instrument and power updating by acquiring two 6-12866 135V block  transformers with a Y-cable connector, an IC Controls TPC3000 Track Power Controller, and a 6-12867 PM-1 Powermaster (the earlier version for 270w with no selector switch).  (I understood I did not need a PH-1 Powerhouse. and do not have one.)    I believe with this combination I will be able to power up just one (1) loop/block (or the whole layout, without loop/block isolators).

To complete my instrumentation, I just acquired a CAB-1L remote. The major reason was to enable the remote activation of the turnouts and activating track, using AC-AS switch controllers.  The second objective is to control one locomotive using the CAB-1L remote.  I believe the CAB-1L remote is to transmit key pad instruction to the PM-1 receiver.   So I tried a simple set up first, wiring the PM-1 to my ZW transformer, at which I got a green LED light, and also was able to get track power.  MY PROBLEM-  the CAB-1L would not transmit a signal to the PM-1 receiver, so I was unable to do a basic TR #1 setup.  The remote beeps 3 times, indicating a failure.  I suspect this is because they are at a different frequency.  I believe the frequency can be adjusted/standardized, but the instructions tell me I am to change it at the base but there is no base for the PM-1.  The PM-1 is probably from around 2006, so maybe there is incompatibility between it the later CAB-1L.

Questions:

1. am I able to make the PM-1 and the CAB-1L compatible?

2. will I need to acquire a Legacy or TMCC base unit, or can I make the PM-1 receiver functional using a different model of remote?

3.  I don't think I received the entire PM-1 instruction manual, so is there one?

Then, incorporating the TPC3000, and how to do it.  Connecting power is straightforward.  Connecting track should be too, but, with just these two hookups I am not getting any track voltage output, so that leads to the part the is puzzling.

If there is power in to the TPC3000, is there automatically power out to the track terminals, or, must the DAT and COM ports be connected (thereby, the remote's control features are enabling a track voltage output)?  So again the question, in order for the TPC3000 to be functional, will I need to invest in a command base, and if so which one?  Recall, I have only conventional engines.

In the TPC3000 instructions, there is a DB9 connector described with red (DAT) and green (COM) terminal ends.  I do not have this cable.  The instruction manual for the TPC3000 is for Version 1.1.  I suspect this (as with the PM-1) is probably from 2006.

Questions:

4.  Will the CAB-1L communicate with the TPC3000, or do I need a different part number remote?

5.  As with question 2, is my basic problem that I need a Legacy or TMCC base unit?

Thanks for any assistance.  I'm sure I have many other questions, but this is start.

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Your CAB1L remote talks on 2.4Ghz and ideally to a CAB1L base or Legacy base, and later when released the CAB3 base.

Your TPC300 needs a serial data connection to a base. You have no base. Again if you want that CAB1L to talk to anything, you need a 2.4Ghz receiving base, either the CAB1L set base, or the Legacy base.

Original Powermasters received directly 27Mhz AM signal directly from the CAB remote - no base required. There is a powermaster bridge device, that can transmit a 27Mhz signal, but catch 22, it's looking for 455Khz TMCC/Legacy signal from a base.

So in a nutshell, yes, you either need a base- I could be an original CAB base, but then you need an original CAB remote negating you current CAB1L. Go the other way, get a CAB1L base, and that allows the TPC300 to work with a cable, but then you need the powermaster bridge for those older powermasters.

Again, big picture, you need a base, you might try to get newer Legacy powermasters and get rid of your older original powermasters.

Just my opinion and experience.

Last edited by Vernon Barry

... why should I need any Powermaster?   

I just purchased the CAB-1L and can return it, in exchange for:

a)  The #990 LEGACY Command Set, with the #991 LEGACY CAB-2 Remote Controller and a #992 LEGACY Command Base/Charger?

b) get the serial cable I need for the TPC3000?

c) upgrade to a compatible Legacy Powermaster?

d) if I keep the Cab-1L and acquire a 990 Legacy set, do I then have two remotes that are functional for my little layout?

Last edited by RandyH
@RandyH posted:

... why should I need any Powermaster?   Same question I had In my head, but you had multiple track loops and blocks potentially, so I figured you were trying to control them separately.

I just purchased the CAB-1L and can return it, in exchange for:

a)  The #990 LEGACY Command Set, with the #991 LEGACY CAB-2 Remote Controller and a #992 LEGACY Command Base/Charger? Sure, one could do that then you have full blown Legacy

b) get the serial cable I need for the TPC3000? Yes, you need a simple serial cable for that to work.

This is a Lionel 6-14191 6 Foot Command Base Cable.

c) upgrade to a compatible Legacy Powermaster? Yes, if you didn't want to use the TPC300, and wired cable connection, and you had some complete base and remote set of command control, a Legacy Powermaster is a better choice IMO. That said, you likely have a good TPC300, and just not the right parts (base and serial cable) to use it. That said- even the Legacy Powermaster still gets it's control signal from a base. Bottom line, you have a remote and no base at the moment.

d) if I keep the Cab-1L and acquire a 990 Legacy set, do I then have two remotes that are functional for my little layout? Yes, the CAB1L remote talks to the Legacy base and anything TMCC or Legacy through the base.

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