Recently i got a cab 1l to replace my worn out cab1. This is what i found...the no antennae is a big plus...also it is not as sensitive as the cab 1 . i had some signal pick up issues with the cab 1 where it would lose contact with the engine in remote places. The cab1l has completely resolved those. I can take the engine all over the layout ..NO PROBLEMS...so if your on the fence or looking for cab1s to stop the bleeding...a legacy cab1l is worth the purchase and you can run legacy.....in my case SOMEDAY ! conrail john
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Recently i got a cab 1l to replace my worn out cab1. This is what i found...the no antennae is a big plus...also it is not as sensitive as the cab 1 . i had some signal pick up issues with the cab 1 where it would lose contact with the engine in remote places. The cab1l has completely resolved those. I can take the engine all over the layout ..NO PROBLEMS...so if your on the fence or looking for cab1s to stop the bleeding...a legacy cab1l is worth the purchase and you can run legacy..
But one MUST have the Legacy base & Cab-2 assembly, correct?
...in my case SOMEDAY ! conrail john
Very good information to know and thanks for posting. Now I know what to do if/when one of my Cab-1 handhelds takes a dump.
My omission..got to have the base for it. still what a big improvement over cab1 crj
My omission..got to have the base for it. still what a big improvement over cab1 crj
well I was all set to replace my cab-1 with the cab 1L thinking it would work with the tmcc base.
oh well short lived dream!
The Cab 1L has its own base called the Base 1L, but it can also be used with a Legacy base.
The nice thing about the CAB1-L is that you can use it with the Legacy system, it's a more compact remote. I'd rather hand that one to kids, easier to handle, and less to break when they drop it.
Question, now that I'm thinking about my first Lionel engine in over 15 years What can't the CAB1L do compared to the full legacy?
You can't access stuff like the extended lighting menu form the CAB1-L. Basically, you get TMCC features and you can use the quilling whistle.
Gentlemen,
The great thing about both of the Cab1's is the ability to run Command Control FasTrack Switches from them, and many of the Legacy ops also. I am a novice at Legacy at this point, however on one of my Christmas layouts we used the original Cab1 for switch control with my FasTrack, it spurred me on toward the Legacy Control System, I now own.
PCRR/Dave
i had some signal pick up issues with the cab 1 where it would lose contact with the engine in remote places. The cab1l has completely resolved those. I can take the engine all over the layout ..NO PROBLEMS...
Except that the Cab-1 has nothing to do with talking to the engine, that's the base that does that. So the issues of communication you had with the engines were due to base issues, not the handheld.
i had some signal pick up issues with the cab 1 where it would lose contact with the engine in remote places. The cab1l has completely resolved those. I can take the engine all over the layout ..NO PROBLEMS...
Except that the Cab-1 has nothing to do with talking to the engine, that's the base that does that. So the issues of communication you had with the engines were due to base issues, not the handheld.
Unless it was the link from remote to base that was acting up.
Unless one is staring at the LED on the base (to see it is receiving remote communications), the symptom of the train not responding could be the same whether the problem is Remote to Base or Base to Engine.
-Dave
(not meaning to rain on John's parade - glad the new CAB1-L is working well for him!)
whatever...your raining on my parade
Recently i got a cab 1l to replace my worn out cab1. This is what i found...the no antennae is a big plus...also it is not as sensitive as the cab 1 . i had some signal pick up issues with the cab 1 where it would lose contact with the engine in remote places. The cab1l has completely resolved those. I can take the engine all over the layout ..NO PROBLEMS...so if your on the fence or looking for cab1s to stop the bleeding...a legacy cab1l is worth the purchase and you can run legacy.....in my case SOMEDAY ! conrail john
As they mentioned above, the neither the Cab1 nor the Cab1L remote communicate directly with the engine. They communicate your instructions to the corresponding base, and then base communicates to the engines. If you are not watching for the red led flashing, there is no way to say for certain it is the handheld.
Our Legacy Cab1L's have a shorter roaming distance than the TMCC Cab1's do.
The retention of the non detent Cab1 red knob versus the detent equipped Cab2 red knob is not liked by most operators using the CAB1L since it loses the easy way to tell how far the velocity throttle has rotated.
whatever...your raining on my parade
Sometimes the OGR forum is a freakin rainforest
whatever...your raining on my parade
Just enjoy John, just enjoy.
Art
I think the 1l also has more speed steps.
John this is OGR it rains a lot here.
I think the 1l also has more speed steps.
John this is OGR it rains a lot here.
That's something I would like to see answer on
I'll be surprised when our club's Cab1L actually works for more than 1 hour. It's headed back to Lionel for the third time. Were it not for a borrowed TMCC / Cab 1 we would have been running only DCS this past December.
The price point is great and at one point I had given serious consideration about buying one. Right now, I dunno.
Gilly
Hmm... I've had the CAB1-L and Harry has one too. They've both been used a lot, and have been flawless.
SETTING MOMENTUM
The LEGACY system’s momentum feature simulates the labored performance of a real life locomotive pulling a heavy load. Press L, M, or H (located under CAB-lL’s removable panel) for light, medium, or heavy momentum. The locomotive remembers this setting until you change it. For normal (quick) locomotive response, press L.
Get a feel for the difference in momentum settings. Select L, M, or H. Turn your throttle slightly and wait a few seconds for the locomotive to respond.
Note that on LEGACY/TMCC2 locomotives, L, M and H settings change the number of individual speed steps your locomotive supports. A setting of L gives 32 speed steps, M yields 100 speed steps and H provides 100 speed steps with added momentum.
Gilly,
Time to invest in a new 990 Legacy and use your particular Cab1 as a back up.
PCRR/Dave
Gilly,
Time to invest in a new 990 Legacy On the agenda for our next club meeting...
... and use your particular Cab1 as a back up. Doorstop? . Gilly
PCRR/Dave
Hmm... I've had the CAB1-L and Harry has one too. They've both been used a lot, and have been flawless.
SETTING MOMENTUM
The LEGACY system’s momentum feature simulates the labored performance of a real life locomotive pulling a heavy load. Press L, M, or H (located under CAB-lL’s removable panel) for light, medium, or heavy momentum. The locomotive remembers this setting until you change it. For normal (quick) locomotive response, press L.
Get a feel for the difference in momentum settings. Select L, M, or H. Turn your throttle slightly and wait a few seconds for the locomotive to respond.
Note that on LEGACY/TMCC2 locomotives, L, M and H settings change the number of individual speed steps your locomotive supports. A setting of L gives 32 speed steps, M yields 100 speed steps and H provides 100 speed steps with added momentum.
How about EOB equipped engines?
I use R100 on EOB equipped locomotives. For the CAB1-L, I'd use the M for 100 speed steps.
Just wondering, where is a good place to buy a Cab1L set that has them in stock?
any suggestions?
Rod
ModelTrainStuff has both the set and the CAB1-L separate sale in stock.