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Recently i got a cab 1l to replace my worn out cab1. This is what i found...the no antennae is a big plus...also it is not as sensitive as the cab 1 . i had some signal pick up issues with the cab 1 where it would lose contact with the engine in remote places. The cab1l has completely resolved those. I can take the engine all over the layout ..NO PROBLEMS...so if your on the fence or looking for cab1s to stop the bleeding...a legacy cab1l is worth the purchase and you can run legacy.....in my case SOMEDAY ! conrail john

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Originally Posted by john f penca jr:

Recently i got a cab 1l to replace my worn out cab1. This is what i found...the no antennae is a big plus...also it is not as sensitive as the cab 1 . i had some signal pick up issues with the cab 1 where it would lose contact with the engine in remote places. The cab1l has completely resolved those. I can take the engine all over the layout ..NO PROBLEMS...so if your on the fence or looking for cab1s to stop the bleeding...a legacy cab1l is worth the purchase and you can run legacy..

 

 

But one MUST have the Legacy base & Cab-2 assembly, correct?

 

...in my case SOMEDAY ! conrail john

 

 

Very good information to know and thanks for posting. Now I know what to do if/when one of my Cab-1 handhelds takes a dump.

 

Gentlemen,

   The great thing about both of the Cab1's is the ability to run Command Control FasTrack Switches from them, and many of the Legacy ops also.  I am a novice at Legacy at this point, however on one of my Christmas layouts we used the original Cab1 for switch control with my FasTrack, it spurred me on toward the Legacy Control System, I now own.

PCRR/Dave

Last edited by Pine Creek Railroad
Originally Posted by john f penca jr:

i had some signal pick up issues with the cab 1 where it would lose contact with the engine in remote places. The cab1l has completely resolved those. I can take the engine all over the layout ..NO PROBLEMS...

Except that the Cab-1 has nothing to do with talking to the engine, that's the base that does that.  So the issues of communication you had with the engines were due to base issues, not the handheld.

Originally Posted by sinclair:
Originally Posted by john f penca jr:

i had some signal pick up issues with the cab 1 where it would lose contact with the engine in remote places. The cab1l has completely resolved those. I can take the engine all over the layout ..NO PROBLEMS...

Except that the Cab-1 has nothing to do with talking to the engine, that's the base that does that.  So the issues of communication you had with the engines were due to base issues, not the handheld.

Unless it was the link from remote to base that was acting up.

 

Unless one is staring at the LED on the base (to see it is receiving remote communications), the symptom of the train not responding could be the same whether the problem is Remote to Base or Base to Engine.

 

-Dave

(not meaning to rain on John's parade - glad the new CAB1-L is working well for him!)

Last edited by Dave45681
Originally Posted by john f penca jr:

Recently i got a cab 1l to replace my worn out cab1. This is what i found...the no antennae is a big plus...also it is not as sensitive as the cab 1 . i had some signal pick up issues with the cab 1 where it would lose contact with the engine in remote places. The cab1l has completely resolved those. I can take the engine all over the layout ..NO PROBLEMS...so if your on the fence or looking for cab1s to stop the bleeding...a legacy cab1l is worth the purchase and you can run legacy.....in my case SOMEDAY ! conrail john

As they mentioned above, the neither the Cab1 nor the Cab1L remote communicate directly with the engine. They communicate your instructions to the corresponding base, and then base communicates to the engines. If you are not watching for the red led flashing, there is no way to say for certain it is the handheld.

Our Legacy Cab1L's have a shorter roaming distance than the TMCC Cab1's do.

The retention of the non detent Cab1 red knob versus the detent equipped Cab2 red knob is not liked by most operators using the CAB1L since it loses the easy way to tell how far the velocity throttle has rotated.

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I'll be surprised when our club's Cab1L actually works for more than 1 hour. It's headed back to Lionel for the third time. Were it not for a borrowed TMCC / Cab 1 we would have been running only DCS this past December.

 

The price point is great and at one point I had given serious consideration about buying one. Right now, I dunno.

 

Gilly

Hmm...  I've had the CAB1-L and Harry has one too.  They've both been used a lot, and have been flawless.

 

SETTING MOMENTUM


The LEGACY system’s momentum feature simulates the labored performance of a real life locomotive pulling a heavy load. Press L, M, or H (located under CAB-lL’s removable panel) for light, medium, or heavy momentum. The locomotive remembers this setting until you change it. For normal (quick) locomotive response, press L.

 

Get a feel for the difference in momentum settings. Select L, M, or H. Turn your throttle slightly and wait a few seconds for the locomotive to respond.

 

Note that on LEGACY/TMCC2 locomotives, L, M and H settings change the number of individual speed steps your locomotive supports. A setting of L gives 32 speed steps, M yields 100 speed steps and H provides 100 speed steps with added momentum.

 

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

Hmm...  I've had the CAB1-L and Harry has one too.  They've both been used a lot, and have been flawless.

 

SETTING MOMENTUM


The LEGACY system’s momentum feature simulates the labored performance of a real life locomotive pulling a heavy load. Press L, M, or H (located under CAB-lL’s removable panel) for light, medium, or heavy momentum. The locomotive remembers this setting until you change it. For normal (quick) locomotive response, press L.

 

Get a feel for the difference in momentum settings. Select L, M, or H. Turn your throttle slightly and wait a few seconds for the locomotive to respond.

 

Note that on LEGACY/TMCC2 locomotives, L, M and H settings change the number of individual speed steps your locomotive supports. A setting of L gives 32 speed steps, M yields 100 speed steps and H provides 100 speed steps with added momentum.

 

How about EOB equipped engines?

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