Hello, is there a correct color green for steam locomotive cab interiors or did different roads use individual colors thanx Jim R.
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For what its worth, when EMC/EMD began producing diesel units, in the mid to late 1930s, the color of choice was "jade green", which was apparently what steam locomotives used. As time progressed, EMC/EMD began offering two different cab interior colors, and no extra charge; 1) the standard "jade green" and the soon to become more popular, "Sued Gray".
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
For what its worth, when EMC/EMD began producing diesel units, in the mid to late 1930s, the color of choice was "jade green", which was apparently what steam locomotives used. As time progressed, EMC/EMD began offering two different cab interior colors, and no extra charge; 1) the standard "jade green" and the soon to become more popular, "Sued Gray".
Agreed on the color. I found Testor's Model Master acrylic FS34237 to be a good one to use on cabs of my locomotives. It may be a tad lighter than "jade green" but in a model, lighter is better for interior visibility.
Jerry
I always called it "institutional green" which sounds better than "nut house green."
Thanx for all the help, RoyBoy my wife would probably go for the nut house green. HAH!!!!!!! Jim R.
Somewhere close to this...
The real thing. Don
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We're the colors of the interiors railroad specific? How about locomotive manufacturer specific? I see above that EMC/EMD were green in the time that I model, but what about ALCo, FM, Baldwin and Lima?
I have the Sharks apart and want to paint the interior. Looks like I'm going to take the F3s apart, again...
Thanks,
Mario
I have the Sharks apart and want to paint the interior. Looks like I'm going to take the F3s apart, again...
Thanks,
Mario
Originally Posted by CentralFan1976:
We're the colors of the interiors railroad specific?
Yes. Railroads had a choice of the two "basic" colors, i.e. either "Jade Green" or "Sued Gray". Some railroads never varied from their choice of "basic". Some railroads did change in the 1970s or 1980s.
How about locomotive manufacturer specific?
As I remember, Alco used the same two colors that EMC/EMD used, since those colors tended to be based on the same colors used in the steam days. The main line GE U25B locomotive model didn't come to market until the early 1960s, so I don't know what colors GE offered.
I see above that EMC/EMD were green in the time that I model,
For THAT railroad, yes. Remember that railroads had a choice, regardless of what era you model.
but what about ALCo, FM, Baldwin and Lima?
My guess would be that they offered the same two colors, since they were based from the steam locomotive era.
I have the Sharks apart and want to paint the interior. Looks like I'm going to take the F3s apart, again...
I have the Sharks apart and want to paint the interior. Looks like I'm going to take the F3s apart, again...
Again, it depends on what railroad you are modeling, and what time frame, to be prototypically accurate.
Thanks,
Mario
HW, you are the MAN!
Thanks!
I got some nice ultra flat green that I'm going to try, as well as a light grayish tan.
I'll post some pictures.
Thanks,
Mario
Thanks!
I got some nice ultra flat green that I'm going to try, as well as a light grayish tan.
I'll post some pictures.
Thanks,
Mario
I have used Lowes Valspar #65084 Everglade (satin) in the spray can.
How's this?
Krylon Camouflage Ultra-flat "Fern".
Thanks,
Mario
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FWIW, I used a Testors Model Master color I had on hand from painting non-train models. The color I chose was Pale Green. In the acrylic it's #4739. In the enamel it's #1716. For some reason the acrylic and enamel versions are not quite the same,but close...close enough for the cab interiors of the HO engines I painted.....long ago...before I gave up on the 'How Ordinary' scale forever!
As Kermit once said, 'It's not easy being green!'
Meanwhile, back at the ranch...
KD
Originally Posted by CentralFan1976:
How's this?
Krylon Camouflage Ultra-flat "Fern".
Thanks,
Mario
Looks like a "Driver" from Great Briton to me.
Oh, you're asking about the color green,,,,,,looks good to me.
An atlas SW9, in the shop for repair.
Here's a shot of a SCL unit:
Look across the engine at the fireman's side at the door that's open, it looks to be the same shade as the engine exterior. I used Testors Model Master acrylic (4852) green zinc chromate on this Lionel GP9:
Not sure if the interior of the cab is the same color as the interior side of the door, so hey....
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HW, I agree, these Lionel guys sure do look like drivers, in fact, the controls were on the firemans side, and I had to swap them.
Mike, ouch! Looks like a roll over; high side in a low speed curve?
Thanks!
Mike, ouch! Looks like a roll over; high side in a low speed curve?
Thanks!
Originally Posted by CentralFan1976:
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Mike, ouch! Looks like a roll over; high side in a low speed curve?
Mike, ouch! Looks like a roll over; high side in a low speed curve?
I believe it was through an end bumper, straight to the floor. Cab hit first. 
I think it can be salvaged.. I have parts coming from Atlas.
Thanks!
I think it can be salvaged.. I have parts coming from Atlas.Thanks!
I call that color "Limpopo Green" after Kipling's "gray-green greasy Limpopo River." Back in the 70's when I was traveling around East Africa, the entire interior of the U.S. Embassy in Khartoum was painted that color. It was gross, I could barely stand to go to work there. Fortunately I was never in Khartoum for more than a week at a time. I don't know how the people stationed there put up with it for a two-year tour. There were also bullet holes in the Ambassador's office from some attempted coup, and most of the toilets were local-style floor toilets with footprints to show where to put your feet. A horrible place; the staff there earned their hardship pay!
Originally Posted by RoyBoy:
I always called it "institutional green" which sounds better than "nut house green."
Originally Posted by Southwest Hiawatha:
I call that color "Limpopo Green" after Kipling's "gray-green greasy Limpopo River." Back in the 70's when I was traveling around East Africa, the entire interior of the U.S. Embassy in Khartoum was painted that color. It was gross, I could barely stand to go to work there. Fortunately I was never in Khartoum for more than a week at a time. I don't know how the people stationed there put up with it for a two-year tour. There were also bullet holes in the Ambassador's office from some attempted coup, and most of the toilets were local-style floor toilets with footprints to show where to put your feet. A horrible place; the staff there earned their hardship pay!
Originally Posted by RoyBoy:
I always called it "institutional green" which sounds better than "nut house green."
I thought Khartoum was a horse?
Just kidding; that is so cool... That's one great thing about this hobby; it pulls so many different people together. You were in East Africa, I spent a year in Singapore, P51 flies mustangs...
So cool.
BTW... I'm pretty sure you weren't CIA, as you're talking about it. Contractor? "Contractor"? Peace Corp?
Thanks,
Mario
PS - Krylon doesn't call it Fern... it's called "Woodland Light Green".
http://www.krylon.com/products...-plastic-technology/
Thanks,
Mario
Originally Posted by CentralFan1976:
I thought Khartoum was a horse?
Just kidding; that is so cool... That's one great thing about this hobby; it pulls so many different people together. You were in East Africa, I spent a year in Singapore, P51 flies mustangs...
So cool.
BTW... I'm pretty sure you weren't CIA, as you're talking about it. Contractor? "Contractor"? Peace Corp?
Thanks,
Mario
No, not CIA, although plenty of people have thought I was over the years and I occasionally got mixed up in their business. I was a Foreign Service Officer (career diplomat). My first overseas tour was in Nairobi in a regional office providing administrative support to several embassies in East Africa. Got to Ethiopia, Somalia, Sudan, Tanzania, Zambia, Malawi, Rwanda, Burundi, Madagascar - even got in a side trip to Zanzibar on a weekend while I was working in Dar es Salaam. Worked on some of Kissinger's trips. Spent most of my weekends and vacations on safari. Good times.
It's interesting when one of these places pops up in the news to remember what it was like being there - the gold market in Mogadishu before Somalia came apart, the confluence of the White and Blue Nile in Khartoum, the sun over the golden dome of the Mahdi's tomb in Omdurman, the Blue Nile Falls in Ethiopia, sundowners at the Tanganyika Club in Bujumbura watching the hippos cavort in Lake Tanganyika - a lot of memories there.
Wow.
