Caboose for my VL BB : Poll

$oo, do you have the box for the caboose?  That'd be a sure fire way to know, otherwise I would feel safe to say it is the caboose Hot Water was talking about.  Lucky you.  Also, I believe the odd window is where the bathroom would be.

 

After looking at Charlie's yellow caboose with the Tomar markers on it, I think I'm going to go with the yellow one and add the markers to it for now.  I'm going to have more UP locomotives in the future, so I'll be sure to get one of those reddish-brown cabooses later.  For my VL BB, I just want to make a "set" from the 2014 catalog.

Sinclair,  the box is long gone I only keep engine boxes in case of repair return.

 

lionel if they follow old ways will either have the re-issue of correct caboose in 2014-v2 catalog or will release in a catalog for 2015 they do tend to do this.

 

time will tell but it sure was a misstep on there part not to include it with new bb offering.

 

$oo

Maybe I missed a post here BUT I see on page 9 of the new catalog a Yellow four digit number CA-4 caboose 6-81840.  So they did include an appropriate caboose for 1947 onto 1959 when the numbering changed to five digits.

Yes it is the yellow caboose I was referring to, and it has a 4 digit number on it.  But I think the color was the issue Hot Water and others were commenting on, the reddish-brown would be more correct than yellow for what would be seen behind the 4000 locomotives.

 

That's correct, especially for the 4000s in their "as delivered" appearance with the exposed cooling coils.

Without a doubt, the Train Loft's "Big Boy Survivors" caboose is THE perfect caboose for Lionel's upcoming VL Big Boy.  You couldn't ask for a better match-up, regardless of prototype fidelity (or infidelity as the case may be).  It's your railroad, so buy what YOU want if that's what calls your name.

The special-run K-line items that The Train Loft produced were top-notch.  I have the UP boxcar 3-pk as well as the UP aluminum tankers.  Dynamite stuff with eye-catching color schemes.

David

Completely agree. I have all the cars you mentioned and delighted with their appearance  and quality. I count all among my favorites.

Maybe if I send this caboose back to Lionel, they'll finish lettering it.. 

 

This guy is a bit small for the gigantic BB but I like it

Joe 

 

 

$Soo Line - Your caboose is 17690 from the 2006Vol2 catalog, the same catalog that had the Legacy Big Boy.  This is the only Lionel UP caboose numbered 3826.

Soo Line posted:

 

"...I have no Lionel markings is that correct? If so then I through ignorance choose the correct caboose in my purchases somewhere along the line.
$oo"

 

Sorry for the delay in responding.

 

Yes, that is the brown CA-4. Actually, I did not realize Lionel released multiple numbers in the brown version, cool find.

 

Either way, its a great caboose, as is, or modified to your liking.

 

I will be working on my CA-3 sometime over the summer, I already have the markers, LED, so now its just finding the time to do the work.

 

Charlie

Charlie, thank you for the response and welcomed confirmation on my caboose.

A few years back I happened to by a new mth imperial bb and they had some up box cars and I think they will look good behind this bb from Lionel this year.

$oo

Ed h,   thank you for the response nice to know by accident I bought the correct caboose for this new bb.

I wonder if maybe back then this purchase new I was going to purchase a bb some years latter!

now that is a scary thought.

$oo

Joe, I have the same bobber caboose behind my MTH Big Boy and I love it, its just funny. I just bought a brown  CA-3 caboose with 4 digit number from Nicholas Smith yesterday and I have the CA-4 in brown. All the CA-4's have that funny window

That is funny because the drawings for the UP CAs in fact have that "funny window."

Maybe someone could explain the exterior difference between a CA-3 & CA-4 caboose. I have the yellow CA-4 from 2006 and the brown CA-3 from 2010.

They're both Lionel and except for color they're identical.

Anyone know if the brown CA-3 was used behind the #9000? 

Joe 

Yes, those brown UP cabooses would have been used on trains pulled by the 9000 class locomotives. Since the UP 9000 class locomotives date from the late 1920s, and continued to work on the UP main lines right up thru the mid-1950s, both the brown cabooses as well as the yellow cabooses would be correct, obviously depending on what years you are modeling.

Thanks Hot water.

Joe

The CA-3s(as delivered) and CA-4s are NOT identical.  Take a very close look of the detail on the cupolas.  The detail that you see on the Lionel (6-27633) was removed by UP after a design change in September, 1943 for safety.  So to be prototypical correct to use this caboose the time period would be from July,1942 to September, 1943.  But who is counting!

 

Ron

>>The CA-3s(as delivered) and CA-4s are NOT identical.  Take a very close look of the detail on the cupolas.  The detail that you see on the Lionel (6-27633) was removed by UP after a design change in September, 1943 for safety.  So to be prototypical correct to use this caboose the time period would be from July,1942 to September, 1943.  But who is counting!  Ron<<<<

 

Thanks,  I never noticed that probably because till you pointed it out I didn't look at the two side by side that closely.

Joe