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I've often wondered about the rationale for building camelback or "mother hubbard" type of engines.  From what I can tell, the primary railroads to use this style of locomotive were the Jersey Central, The Reading,  the NYO&W (old & weary) and a few Erie experiments.  What was to gain from this style of engine where the cab is some half-way along the boiler, way ahead of the firebox.  It would seem to me that there were lots of faults with the design, such as difficult communications between the engineer and the fireman, a rather cramped and necessarily hot cab, location of the fireman at the rear of the boiler where he was outside in the elements, and not much benefit.  Supposedly with the engineer being closer to the front of the engine, he might have a slightly better view of the track ahead but I would question whether that would make enough difference.  On the other hand on a conventional engine, the fireman was on the left side of the cab and could see ahead and warn the engineer of anything that was visible from that side of the cab.

 

The biggest disadvantage, to my mind, was the danger to the engineer, being located directly above the side rods where, should there be a broken rod or journal, the rods would come right up into the cab and seriously endanger the crew.

 

Anyone ever read the reason for this dngine design?  Realizing that only a few railroads used this design, it certainly wasn't very popular but what was the reason for the design in the first place?

 

Paul Fischer

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Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:

Strasburg has an ex-Reading 0-4-0 camelback.

 

And, for On30:

http://www.backwoodsminiatures.com/0n3kits.htm

 

Rusty

Saw that one already...a nice kit. Eons ago when I was running G gauge{27+yrs} I took the bachmann 10 wheeler and redid it as a camelback. Turned out really nice and was a conversation starter at the modular groups and backyard layout runs.

Founded in 1833, the Philadelphia & Reading attempted to fashion a firebox that would burn "culm" - finely-ground anthracite coal that piled up like mountains around coal "breakers," mixed with rocks and other impurities. It was good coal but draft from the exhaust pulled it up and off the grates.

 

Finally, in 1883, John Wootten succeeded. His firebox was wide and flat to diffuse the draft. Both sides extended beyond the frame. Wootten fireboxes were used all through the steam era, concluding with 30 T-1 4-8-4's (1945-1947) an 10 G-3 4-6-2's (1948), all built in the Reading Locomotive Shops along North Sixth Street. Other "anthracite roads" followed suit to burn cheap and plentiful fuel.

 

At first the cab was placed atop the firebox, like "Camels" (not Camelbacks) in the B&O Museum in Baltimore. But the cab was too high to clear tunnels and bridges. So it was moved in front of the firebox and straddled the boiler.

 

As boilers grew in size in the 1920's, Camelbacks gave way to end cabs. Wootten fireboxes were modified to burn a mixture of anthracite and bituminous coal. "Hard coal" burned too slowly to generate steam at speed. The Reading and the Jersey Central, "regional" railroads, got along with Camelbacks and without Super Power until the end of steam.

 

Rich can reply, but IMHO there is no way that 765 (or 844 or 4449) could burn only anthracite and still perform.

 

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