Ah, Thanks Steve, I've been looking for this for years. I'll be ording a copy today.
Have a great one!
John
There's a Williams brass camelback on eBay right now, starting at $239. 
Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:
There's a Williams brass camelback on eBay right now, starting at $239.
An eerily similar Williams brass camelback is for sale right now on the OGR for sale forum for $230+shipping.
And so there is! 
When did Williams market brass locos?
They used to market a bunch of them, they're made by Samhongsha. I believe the late 80's and early 90's was the timeframe for most of these, then Williams stopped selling them.
Yep, those are Williams Imperial Crown models.
The 3-rail Brass Club (affiliated with QSIndustries) offered some with 2-rail detail (brake shoes, air hoses, etc.).
Williams' first brass model, made in Korea in 1983/4, was a B&O President (5300) Pacific. Fragile details were removed but other details were retained. The goal was a locomotive that could be handled like a Postwar Era diecast steamer but one that also had more detail. This was the first brass locomotive 3-rail "O" Gauge by a major player in that market.
NYC Hudsons, Pennsy K4's and L-1's (2-8-2's), and Baldwin Sharks followed. I think Mike Wolf participated because his own Standard Gauge models were being made by the same manufacturer in Korea.
Williams' best were Crown Edition brass models of NYC Niagaras, SP DAYLIGHT GS-4's, N&W J's, SP Cab-Forwards, and Camelback Ten-Wheelers made around 1990.
Hmmm . . . Would a GE 44-tonner qualify as a Camelback?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Thanks for the info. The loco for sale by Wowak has a few years on it then.
Wowak's web site (link is in his post above) shows he does some beautiful model loco modifications (too good looking to be called "kitbashing"). Worth a look.
Does a 44-ton have a boiler under the cab? Then it would qualify. Maybe we ought to ask "CSX Fan" his view on that, since he owns 2 full size ones.
Originally Posted by ReadingFan:
Hmmm . . . Would a GE 44-tonner qualify as a Camelback?
Inquiring minds want to know.
No, because the cab is not sitting on top of the hoods, it is settled in between two hoods.
That's why they're refered to as center-cab locomotives.
Otherwise, would not an RS-1, RS-2, RS-3 also be consisdered a "camelback?" After all, the cab sits higher than the hoods. If we apply the same logic, one's automobile could also be considered a "camelback..."
Rusty
Originally Posted by ReadingFan:
Williams' best were Crown Edition brass models of NYC Niagaras, SP DAYLIGHT GS-4's, N&W J's, SP Cab-Forwards, and Camelback Ten-Wheelers made around 1990.
I have the Williams Crown Edition scale SP Cab Forward. It does have great detail, though I'll have to work on the cab to "dress it up" when I upgrade it to command.
The Long Island Rail Road had a fleet of Camelbacks in commuter, named train and freight service. They were classes D53, E51 and G54. Perhaps the most spectacular event involving Camelback engines was the Great Golden's Pickle Factory Wreck in Calverton Long Island. Read about it here:
http://www.trainsarefun.com/li...recks/lirrwrecks.htm
Camelbacks on the Long Island Rail Road were speed demons, and in Steel Rails To The Sunrise by Ron Zeil there are several exploits of these engines running at mind boggling speeds.
For more on the pickle factory wreck, see
