I read something in the HOUSTON CHRONICLE that CAT will be offering their engines in both diesel and natural gas. Shown in a picture was blue EMD demo 2012. Will the railroads bite. There was no mention of the Tier 4 situation.
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Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
I read something in the HOUSTON CHRONICLE that CAT will be offering their engines in both diesel and natural gas. Shown in a picture was blue EMD demo 2012. Will the railroads bite. There was no mention of the Tier 4 situation.
would be cheaper in fuel cost..burns cleaner
But the only problem with gas I can see is that you cannot run it as a fuel in tunnels!
Tunnels? You can diesel in a tunnel. You can run coal/oil in a tunnel. Why not natural gas?
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
But the only problem with gas I can see is that you cannot run it as a fuel in tunnels!
that normal gassolean ..it about natural gas in which it burns cleaner then diesel doesnt burn that clean..Most of your citys school busses covered to natural gas.even your propane trucks are powered by propane..
Originally Posted by joseywales:
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
But the only problem with gas I can see is that you cannot run it as a fuel in tunnels!
that normal gassolean ..it about natural gas in which it burns cleaner then diesel doesnt burn that clean..Most of your citys school busses covered to natural gas.even your propane trucks are powered by propane..
Houston METRO is going with CNG in buses which are not artics.
What are artics ?
Very short articulated buses
There might be a developing market for natural gas fired locomotives, as the incidence of cancer is alledged to be higher around major terminals, such as Long Beach, due to diesel particulate. Our friends, the lawyers, have already "smelled the meat a-cookin" on that one. I would imagine railroads would want to greatly reduce their exposure at such terminals with many idling diesel motors (truck and railroad). Nat gas might be next best move, prior to electrification?
Originally Posted by joseywales:
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
I read something in the HOUSTON CHRONICLE that CAT will be offering their engines in both diesel and natural gas. Shown in a picture was blue EMD demo 2012. Will the railroads bite. There was no mention of the Tier 4 situation.
would be cheaper in fuel cost..burns cleaner
If the railroads go online big time with natural gas, you'll see the price skyrocket.
Rusty
Originally Posted by mark s:
... Nat gas might be next best move, prior to electrification?
Now, that's the one I'm waiting for.
I want to see us go back to coal fired.....
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
Originally Posted by joseywales:
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
But the only problem with gas I can see is that you cannot run it as a fuel in tunnels!
that normal gassolean ..it about natural gas in which it burns cleaner then diesel doesnt burn that clean..Most of your citys school busses covered to natural gas.even your propane trucks are powered by propane..
Houston METRO is going with CNG in buses which are not artics.
Is there a translator in the house?
Artics: Articulated!
There may be federal regs prohibiting compressed gas in tunnels. Many, if not all, sates prohibit gas cylinders or propane trucks in vehicular tunnels.
Originally Posted by Flash:
Tunnels? You can diesel in a tunnel. You can run coal/oil in a tunnel. Why not natural gas?
Originally Posted by Kent Loudon:
There may be federal regs prohibiting compressed gas in tunnels. Many, if not all, sates prohibit gas cylinders or propane trucks in vehicular tunnels.
Originally Posted by Flash:
Tunnels? You can diesel in a tunnel. You can run coal/oil in a tunnel. Why not natural gas?
That is the law I was thinking of.
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
Originally Posted by Kent Loudon:
There may be federal regs prohibiting compressed gas in tunnels. Many, if not all, sates prohibit gas cylinders or propane trucks in vehicular tunnels.
Originally Posted by Flash:
Tunnels? You can diesel in a tunnel. You can run coal/oil in a tunnel. Why not natural gas?
That is the law I was thinking of.
Nothing to do with railroad tunnels though.
I hate when my cat has Gas
May have something to do with natural gas in RR tunnels. Ka BOOM!
Same reason BN crews did not like the big storage tank behind their engines.
I like NG as a fuel, however, It's getting cheaper, helps a bit with the clean air.
Better used in trucking. Use smaller fuel tanks (less danger) with more fuel stops,
much better for the air. T Boon Pickens is on the right track.
Ed
Originally Posted by SRChris:
I hate when my cat has Gas
Wondered when someone would say this!!
Originally Posted by rrman:
Originally Posted by SRChris:
I hate when my cat has Gas
Wondered when someone would say this!!
And do you have to call haz-mat when the cat releases to the atmosphere?
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
Originally Posted by rrman:
Originally Posted by SRChris:
I hate when my cat has Gas
Wondered when someone would say this!!
And do you have to call haz-mat when the cat releases to the atmosphere?
Not so much with cats, but when one of my dogs does....holy hannah, you'd think someone was making and/or burning tires
Originally Posted by SRChris:
I hate when my cat has Gas
Bad old Gassy Cat!
