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Challenger Broken Axle

U UP332OGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

I've noticed that my challenger's rear drivers would lock up and be drug when going slowly. If I put it in reverse it would free up, and it wouldn't happen at faster speeds. After much trouble shooting, I determined that the front (geared) driver's axle is broken, and it would get out of being properly quartered. The half of the axle on the opposite side of the gear is loose in the brass sleeve; it can be pulled out and a splined area is visable, a black plastic bushing comes out of the brass sleeve with it. At this time I don't have a wrench or nut driver small enough to remove the linkage, so I can only do so much right now. 

 

I've attached a photo that I hope shows the situation

 

This engine has never been dropped, or had any other type of misfortune.

 

Does anyone know if this is fixable, obviously quartering would be an issue, or is a new one the answer. 

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

 

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TS Tom StoltzOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

Looks like you're going to need a new driver pair.

 

The only parts breakdown I could find is for the Western Pacific Challenger, but the drivers should be the same for all versions.

 

http://www.lionel.com/Customer...8b-9dbf-1b8605eb79c9

 

Sequence #37.  Part number is 6408082554  $16.40

 

Rusty

Hi Rusty,

 

Do you know the diameter of the drivers?  Looks like they might be a good source for some Flyer bashing.

 

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

RT Rusty TraqueOGR Forum Member
Originally Posted by Tom's Turnouts:

Looks like you're going to need a new driver pair.

 

The only parts breakdown I could find is for the Western Pacific Challenger, but the drivers should be the same for all versions.

 

http://www.lionel.com/Customer...8b-9dbf-1b8605eb79c9

 

Sequence #37.  Part number is 6408082554  $16.40

 

Rusty

Hi Rusty,

 

Do you know the diameter of the drivers?  Looks like they might be a good source for some Flyer bashing.

 

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

Sorry Tom, I haven't measured them and my Challenger's packed away right now.

 

Rusty

U UP332OGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

The new axle arrived from Lionel (very good service), as well as a set of micro nut drivers from Micro Mark. The new axle is in and we're up and running. I've attached a photo of the broken axle: it appears there's a black plastic or epoxy sleeve on the right side half shaft inside the brass sleeve to insulate one side from the other, and I guess it just let loose. I hope that's not a common problem.

 

For Tom, the diameter of the wheel is 1 3/64" or 1.0450".

 

Again, thanks for the help

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For Tom, the diameter of the wheel is 1 3/64" or 1.0450".

 

UP332,

 

Thanks for the for the diameter info.  For a comparison standard Flyer ranges for 75” to 78” (converted to scale), the Flyonel Mikado is 61”, Am Models comes in at 74 ¼”, the Flyonel Challenger as started is 67”.  I didn’t look at the SHS 2-8-0.  Maybe someone on list knows its diameter.

 

I was somewhat surprised by the range of the Flyer.  The larger reading was on a very clean steel wheel, too.

 

Does anyone know if there are 0 scale drivers availably?  I,m thinking the scale flange in 0 would be about Hi-rail in S.

 

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

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