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A large number of PRR steam locomotive models have been imported in O scale over the last 45 years, but unfortunately at times some have been equipped with marker or classification lights that are incompatible with other era dependent features such as post 1940 wide spaced PENNSYLVANIA lettering or post WWII drop pilots and trainphone antennas.

An authoritative article on PRR marker and classification light practices from 1922-1957 by Elmer Steurernagel  was  published in PRRT&HS’s The Keystone Vol 35, Number 1, Sping 2002.  I've found the information  helpful in harmonizing PRR locomotive details with the era I'm modelling.. For those that do not have that that issue of The Keystone below is an overview of the changing standards. 

·         1922 - PRR adopts a cast 2 piece (claw foot/rotating 4 lens helmet head) fixture for class and marker lights on steam  locomotives 

·         2 pair of marker light fixtures - 1 red lens, 3 amber lens

    • 1 pair mounted on the pilot beam
    • 1 pair on the tender deck corners
  • 1 pair of classification light fixtures mounted  on the smokebox - 2 green lenses, 2 white lenses

 

·         1929 – shops ordered to remove classification lights from locomotives assigned to yard  and freight service (except M1/M1a's and other freight locomotives regularly assigned to passenger service

 

·         1935 - shops ordered to replace inside and rear facing amber marker light lenses on engines and tenter  with blank discs - leaving 1 red and 1 outside facing amber lens

 

·         Dec. 1939 - shops ordered to relocate tender marker lights on K4s and I1s Kiesel tenders to rear shelf platforms - effected classes include 110P75, 110P75a, 130P75, 130F82a

 

·         June 1940 - PRR ceases to use the train classification rule  (extra, second section following) - shops ordered to remove classification light fixtures from locomotive smokeboxes

 

·         June 1942 - PRR adopts smaller oblong (tombstone) marker light fixture for application to smokeboxes in lieu of pilot beam mounted marker lights.  In their housing are two lenses yellow above, red below,  Not all locomotives were re-equipped with the new markers

 

·         Aug 1946 - PRR adopts a a smaller single red lens round "bulls eye" marker light fixture for use on smokeboxes.  This is the most common marker light fixture seen on postwar PRR steam locomotives – however many with tombstone markers retained them until dropped from the roster

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Based on looking at dated photos on the net and in Pennsy books my guess is that most major non-safety standards changes (such as removing class lights or applying stretched out P E N N S Y L V A N I A  lettering on tenders were done within a year or two of the order coming out of the Mechanical Department - most likely during the next scheduled shopping.  One example I read about in The Keystone related to rebuilding the front ends of the T1 fleet - it took over 3 years to alter all 52 locomotive . 

A great source for dated photos of PRR power is at:  http://www.northeast.railfan.net/prr_steam1.html   By studying photos you can find some very interesting variations to the "standard" look.  However there are some details that just can't be mixed like green/white class lights on a locomotive  with a postwar drop pilots.  To be safe I generally use dated photos to guide super-detailing projects.

 

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Martin - for whatever reasons there just hasn't been as much published research on earlier PRR equipment practices.  I assume you've read The Keystone article on the "Yellow Kid" Pennsylvania Limited.  Though I'm not in the market to buy one, I wish Scott would take your recommendation and offer it.   It is a fabulous looking train and due to its modest length and 4-4-0 power would fit nicely on most layouts.

Keystoned Ed posted:

Martin - for whatever reasons there just hasn't been as much published research on earlier PRR equipment practices.

I was just curious if there were any real differences between PRR and CVRR practices.

 I assume you've read The Keystone article on the "Yellow Kid" Pennsylvania Limited.

Yup!

 Though I'm not in the market to buy one, I wish Scott would take your recommendation and offer it.   It is a fabulous looking train and due to its modest length and 4-4-0 power would fit nicely on most layouts.

I would think its combination of PRR and colorful livery would make for a good seller to operators and collectors alike, but I'm not holding my breath.

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