I am about to upgrade my Kline K4 with the Chuff generator and the Super Chuffer. It says to install the sensor over the fly wheel. My Kline already has a sensor mounted on the motor which is reading an encoder below the flywheel. Do I remove the sensor and add the C-G sensor or leave it and add the C-G sensor? Meaning the motor would have 2 sensors attached.
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@PRR1644 posted:I am about to upgrade my Kline K4 with the Chuff generator and the Super Chuffer. It says to install the sensor over the fly wheel. My Kline already has a sensor mounted on the motor which is reading an encoder below the flywheel. Do I remove the sensor and add the C-G sensor or leave it and add the C-G sensor? Meaning the motor would have 2 sensors attached.
What is the K-Line sensor for? Speed control? If so I'm not sure how this is handled.
The chuff generator has it's own flywheel tape so it would be interesting to see @gunrunnerjohn says about this. Not sure if his sensor could use the same flywheel tape. I sort of doubt it.
The K-Line sensor is driven by the slotted plastic wheel, so I can't read that, it's specifically made for the optical sensor to shine through the slots.
I just mount the C-G tape on the flywheel above the slotted plastic wheel.
Is the existing tach sensor using stripes or a vaned encoder wheel? If the latter you should be able to add the the stripe tape. If the former the chuff sensor should be able to share the existing tape.
Pete
One thing I am not sure of is do I mount the C-G sensor next to the other sensor? Is the existing sensor for speed control and do I just leave it alone?
@Norton posted:Is the existing tach sensor using stripes or a vaned encoder wheel? If the latter you should be able to add the the stripe tape. If the former the chuff sensor should be able to share the existing tape.
The K-Line cruise uses the slotted encoder wheel like Legacy.
@PRR1644 posted:One thing I am not sure of is do I mount the C-G sensor next to the other sensor? Is the existing sensor for speed control and do I just leave it alone?
Yes, you need to leave the existing installation as is, the tach tape and C-G gets installed in addition to it.
Thanks.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:The K-Line cruise uses the slotted encoder wheel like Legacy.
Yes, you need to leave the existing installation as is, the tach tape and C-G gets installed in addition to it.
I wasn’t aware of any K4s that came with K-Line Cruise. Pictures would help, no?
Pete
@Norton posted:I wasn’t aware of any K4s that came with K-Line Cruise. Pictures would help, no?
Pete
You got me Pete, I was just answering the question assuming that he's looking at the flywheel. 
John another question, should I install the C-G before I install the Super Chuffer?
I just looked out on the web, there's three different versions, two different styles. Ones ending in W im guessing are conventional as the "w" stands for whistle, ones ending in CC are TMCC which I found two old listings for 1361 and the 3876 I think, it says "Cruise" in the description. I guess it had cruise then, at least for those two?
Part numbers K3380-1361CC and K3380-3876CC are the same but K3380-5358WCC I guess has a whistle along with the CC?
I guess looking up those part numbers should yield about as much information as we already know. Pictures would definitely help as Pete suggested so we can get a better look at what you're dealing with.
There is a K4 on ebay now with the CC suffix. It clearly says on the box that it has Cruise Control. I know that suffix doesn’t always mean Cruise Control. I think most of the Scale Mikados have a CC suffix and none to my knowledge has Cruise.
Pete
Mine definitely has cruise here is the label on the box.
Well, if it has the toothed plastic wheel on the flywheel, it has cruise.
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