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I have CW80 for power to a small layout inside my main line. I'm only running Lionchief not tmcc or legacy for cw80. I just bought a 036 remote cc switch and when I turn the throttle up for power the breaker on the cw80 is displayed on the transformer indicating a bad connection somewhere. I replaced the switch with a normal piece of track section and no issues when I power up the track. Is there something you need to do to the cc switches if your NOT running tmcc or legacy? I'm I missing something or what could I be over looking? Thank you all in advance.

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If the transformer is indicating a fault, it's because there is a short circuit between Hot and Common somewhere as John suggests.  If it's not a set of crossed wires in the connections to the switch, it's probably a short at the switch.  This is most likely due to the switch's terminals being arranged incorrectly at the factory, ie. the Aux Ground and one or both of the 2 Power terminals.

Perhaps I don't understand but if you have a TMCC remote switch you shouldn't have to wire it up to anything.  It will work just fine on track power.  I don't remember for sure but you might have to change a connection at the switch to do so-the instruction sheet shows how.  I have a number of them that work of track power just fine.

It's true that the CC switches should run just fine off track power.  I prefer to run them on separate power feeds at about 14VAC to promote their longevity (and to allow operating them independently from variable track voltage for conventional loco operation).  I believe independent power feeds also helps isolate them from Transient Voltage Spikes that occur during derailments, as that momentary higher voltage spike exists mainly on the track power circuit when suppressed by TVS diodes in that circuit.  Granted, a TVS attenuated voltage spike can travel back through the transformer secondary windings (if using the same transformer for both circuits), but it has a longer way to go (more resistance) than if the switch is powered directly at the track.

Just a clarification so far, I do not have the switch hooked up to track power, it's to the accessory on my cw80. So when I plug the transformer in with the throttle off, it throws the switch perfectly. It's the track connection not making the connection properly and causing the cw80 to blink like there's a derail somewhere when I power up the throttle.

@Regnildnas posted:

Just a clarification so far, I do not have the switch hooked up to track power, it's to the accessory on my cw80. So when I plug the transformer in with the throttle off, it throws the switch perfectly. It's the track connection not making the connection properly and causing the cw80 to blink like there's a derail somewhere when I power up the throttle.

Thanks for the clarification.  It still sounds like there is either a set of crossed Hot and Common wires (either auxiliary or track) from one of the CW80's outputs or with mixed up switch terminal locations.

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Haven't tried powering it from the track. I have a couple of other ones I power from the accessory terminal with no issues. Would see why I would need to test it out on track power since the switch is is working properly. The issue is when the track (switch) is connected, and then add voltage to the track by throttle with the transformer, the transformer's circuit breaker reads like there is connection problem, like a derailment or what not.

Fastrack Switch Wiring - track jumper works but aux connection doesn't?



If the AUX GND  and AUX power terminals in the switch are reversed (or any wires from the transformer are swapped between Hot and Common), EXACTLY what you are describing will happen.  The switch will work until you supply power from another source, which will overload the transformer because Track power gets shorted to the ground inside the switch because you are then supplying 2 out of phase AC power sources to the same switch terminal.  Please refer to the other thread I linked above for checking continuity between the switch terminals and the rails they are supposed to be connected to.

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