Consolidations and 0-8-0s

I have three of these things, and one Pearce Consolidation.  Sadly (maybe) I have no Hines Lines anything - well, maybe fragments of a Mike . . .

But other Consolidations abound.  I shall see what I come up with.  Re-assure me that you have seen my Saginaw and CLW Consolidations?

Good grief, you sure do nice work. Is this also tender drive?

You did post the Saginaw and CLW recently...but I don't mind seeing them here as well... 

Mark in Oregon 

Remember my post about firebox room?  Compare the firebox here to those of the ten wheelers.

Very nice, show us more! 

@bob2 posted:

Remember my post about firebox room?  Compare the firebox here to those of the ten wheelers.

Sure enough; the ten wheeler has an "innie" as opposed to an "outtie"...not sure I spelled those correctly. 

Mark in Oregon

Interesting thread.    I was told second or third hand, so not very reliable, that Henry Pearce never did sell any complete kits after he got the line.     Obviously you know from first hand information that he did.    

I have a friend who had a 2-8-0 that I think was Hines, or might have been Pearce, that was done up beautifully.    I know it is based on the 0-8-0 but it came out very well.    

Here is a Harriman, in 17/64.  Still awaits decals and weathering.  Even though it is a wide firebox type, I chose tender drive.  Shaft will someday be hidden in the ash pan.  Interestingly, this allows me to do a simulated fire tube boiler.  I doubt I will, but you could see the possibilities.  All my tender drive tenders interchange, except maybe for the A/N 4-4-0.  Actually, with few exceptions, almost all my locomotives can swap tenders.

Even the lowly Harriman 0-6-0s get motors in the tender now.  I have quite a few, following the famous OGR series of the early 1990s.

@bob2 posted:

Here is a Harriman, in 17/64.  Still awaits decals and weathering.  Even though it is a wide firebox type, I chose tender drive.  Shaft will someday be hidden in the ash pan.  Interestingly, this allows me to do a simulated fire tube boiler.  I doubt I will, but you could see the possibilities.  All my tender drive tenders interchange, except maybe for the A/N 4-4-0.  Actually, with few exceptions, almost all my locomotives can swap tenders.

Even the lowly Harriman 0-6-0s get motors in the tender now.  I have quite a few, following the famous OGR series of the early 1990s.

 

...and I hope you will show us them... 

Mark in Oregon 

The old timers around here will throttle me.  They have seen them multiple times - I will search for a link.

No Link.. Here is the one I did for OGR.  Myron didn't like it because no smoke or sound.  Hi-rail cast iron drivers are non-existent - I started with Meehanite castings.  Heart pump motor in firebox - well, I stole it for another project . . .

And all you need to do to see what happens to a forum without some feedback is glance at mtj.  

I see this has a pre-war(?) coupler and tender trucks. What's going on here?... 

Mark in Oregon

@bob2 posted:

 Heart pump motor in firebox - well, I stole it for another project . . .

 

Doing a bit of reanimation once upon a time, were you?

Yeah - not really into 3-rail.  Not sure where all those motors went - they were six bucks each at the surplus store.  I think I have four left.  Super small, super powerful.

Tender trucks are off the Scout I got for Christmas in 1946.  I did the article for OGR, which even then was almost 100% three rail.

Guess I'll give this thread another shot - Here is the first of my scratchbuilt 0-6-0s.  I built it in four days flat, not counting paint and decals.  I took the Roundhouse HO model and measured it, then cut brass.  It, too, has a heart pump motor in the firebox.  The next shot is one of the subsequent models, using a Pittman 8000-series motor in the tender.  I got a bit better at the Harriman proportions, but the basic model uses the techniques outlined in the OGR series.

We actually blocked out a Ten-wheeler, a Mogul, and a Consolidation using the same techniques, and as I recall, it was published.  I built a 2-6-6-2 using identical techniques, and yes, I shall convert it to tender drive some day.

What's the quartering process like with scale wheels? I come from the 3 rail world of wheel cups and rivet presses from my repairing postwar Lionel locomotives.

Quartering with scale steam wheels is the same as ever.  One difference is some PW stuff actually had all the wheels gear driven and the rods were decorative, most modern steam actually uses the drive rods to turn all but one set of drivers.

@bob2 posted:

Guess I'll give this thread another shot - Here is the first of my scratchbuilt 0-6-0s. 

1: I built it in four days flat, not counting paint and decals. 

2: I took the Roundhouse HO model and measured it, then cut brass.  It, too, has a heart pump motor in the firebox.  

1: Holy cow!  

2: Nice; looks just like the Roundhouse model. FWIW, when I was into HO, the best running kit-built engine I ever had was one of those...

Mark in Oregon

Thanks.  More to come.

I covered quartering in an ancient OGR, and of course in OSN 48/ft.  Joe Foehrkolb had a neat little jig, but all I do is center-drill the axles and put the assembly between centers on the lathe.  I arrange two toolposts to "catch" the crankpins, and once it is all set up I refrain from touching the crossfeed.

They do not have to be precisely 90 degrees, but must be within a thousandth of each other.  You can measure that with a piece of cellophane.

Also, and insidiously, crankpins must all be exactly the same distance from axle center.  That is another +/- .001".

picture is available . . .

Here are a couple more - a beginning of an SP 0-8-0, and an almost finished Pearce Consolidation.  I might have shared the Consolidation before - it has my first attempt at cutting a gear, and it works!  I know little about making gears, so I guess I am lucky.

New decals and accents.  Still needs graphite, weathering, and cab data - and maybe some number boards by the stack.

...nice... 

Got any Berkshires, by chance?  

Mark in Oregon