What type or types of caboose were commonly used during the Big Boy era. I have a RK Imperial Big Boy on the way, and since this is my first UP engine I have no UP cabooses. Can't run a train without a caboose!
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SouthernMike posted:What type or types of caboose were commonly used during the Big Boy era. I have a RK Imperial Big Boy on the way, and since this is my first UP engine I have no UP cabooses. Can't run a train without a caboose!
MTH offeres an extremely accurate UP CA-1 "wood sided" caboose in both the brown color as well as the later yellow styling. The brown caboose was used well into the 1950s, while the yellow styling began in the later 1940s. Lionel also offers a prototypically correct CA-4 "steel sided" caboose, and previous runs were available in both brown and yellow. Both classes and colors of cabooses were used on the rear of UP steam powered freight trains until the end of steam in about 1958.
Thanks Hot. After a search on the MTH site I decided I prefer the brown over the yellow. The latest one is scheduled to ship in March so I should be able to get one at my LHS.
30thstreet posted:
Since the original poster enquired about a caboose that was common for the "big boy era", the wide vision "modern style" caboose, pictured above, would not fill the original posters requirement. Also, the UP caboose numbers were only four digit, back in the steam era.
Hot Water posted:30thstreet posted:Since the original poster enquired about a caboose that was common for the "big boy era", the wide vision "modern style" caboose, pictured above, would not fill the original posters requirement. Also, the UP caboose numbers were only four digit, back in the steam era.
Plus the fact the UP never owned any extended vision cabooses.
The OP did ask for the commonly used UP caboose during the Big Boy era.
Rusty
He also bought a RK Imperial Big Boy, so wouldn't a Premier caboose be too big? I assume something like this is what he is after. Has Lionel or MTH made a traditional sized caboose like this?
CAPPilot posted:He also bought a RK Imperial Big Boy, so wouldn't a Premier caboose be too big? I assume something like this is what he is after. Has Lionel or MTH made a traditional sized caboose like this?
What is the difference in size between Rail King cabooses and Premier cabooses? I thought that they were all the same, except the Rail King pieces don't have smoke, and illuminated marker lamps.
HW,
I don't buy RK products so you are probably right. I do like things to look right together, and thought a full size caboose would not look right with a RK locomotive. But really, it is what SOUTHERNMIKE likes not what I like.
We got off topic, my bad. SOUTHERNMIKE's original question is still unanswered.
CAPPilot posted:HW,
I don't buy RK products so you are probably right. I do like things to look right together, and thought a full size caboose would not look right with a RK locomotive. But really, it is what SOUTHERNMIKE likes not what I like.
We got off topic, my bad. SOUTHERNMIKE's original question is still unanswered.
No,,,,,, I answered SOUTHERNMIKE immediately, and he responded that he has decided on the MTH UP brown color CA-1 caboose, which is supposed to be shipping this coming March. I ordered one also.
Missed that post. Coffee must not be working this morning. Going for a run, maybe when I get back I'll have my act together.
Southernmike, UP never had a "Wide Vision/Extended Vision" caboose on their roster. Although they owned something like a hundred and fifty with the MP merger.
MTH made/makes great CA1-s(brown, yellow & white sides). Lionel also made/makes great CA-3s and CA-4s.
The back row.
Ron
Railking and imperial railking are proportionally smaller than scale size. I think that imperial are just shorter but I'm not really sure. Railking locos do smoke and have marker lights
Matt Makens posted:Railking and imperial railking are proportionally smaller than scale size. I think that imperial are just shorter but I'm not really sure. Railking locos do smoke and have marker lights
Not necessarily true! Some and/or many RK cabins/cabooses are scale. For sure all the RK Pennsy N5c's I have are the same size as the Premier ones.
Ron
Those would be referred to as Scaleking
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Hi guys. Thanks for all the replies. As stated above I have decided on the brown CA-1 woodsided caboose. http://mthtrains.com/20-91557 I like the look of the brown a lot better than the same model in yellow. To me it has more of a "dull, grungy freight train" look than the bright yellow.
As for size, most scale stuff looks ok with the larger Railking engines. I run mostly transition era freight, so no autoracks or football field sized boxcars. Recently all of the MTH cabooses I have seen are just yellow boxed Premier. For example, I have both of these bay window cabooses. One Premier and one Railking. Except for road number they are the exact same model.
On large articulated engines I have to stick with the Railking line as space limitations only allow for maximum O-54 curves.
I like the brown as well and purchased the MTH UP Premier version to go behind my Lionel Vision line and the NYC version to run behind my MTH Premier NYC Mohawk and Lionel CCII Niagara and Milk cars.
I think the MTH cabooses will complete th set. Not sure if Heywood be correct for NYC so I would like guidance on that.
Thanks in advance
Kevin
Wise choice-the MTH CA-1 is a beautiful model and surpasses a few of my older brass models in detail.
I have the new one on order, bought the yellow one last year, and have several of the previous runs.
I also prefer the brown, but just opinion.
You'll really like that caboose, I'm confident.
PSU1980 posted:I like the brown as well and purchased the MTH UP Premier version to go behind my Lionel Vision line and the NYC version to run behind my MTH Premier NYC Mohawk and Lionel CCII Niagara and Milk cars.
I think the MTH cabooses will complete th set. Not sure if Heywood be correct for NYC so I would like guidance on that.
Well, if you meant "Not sure if they would be correct for NYC……", then the answer is no. The UP was the only railroad to own and operate those woodside CA-1 design cabooses.
Thanks in advance
Kevin
Thanks. I think foot the BB the caboose will be fine. My only concern is the NYC being the correct version behind the Niagara and Mohawk.
question from the past.. Is this CA-4 authentic or imaginary as something that might have been behind a big boy?
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@hokie71 posted:question from the past.. Is this CA-4 authentic or imaginary as something that might have been behind a big boy?
Make Courtesy Contagious was applied to only one CA-4 August 1958. The number is correct. The final five remaining Big Boy's were retired in 1962.
The last revenue steam run on the Union Pacific was in 1959.
Rusty