Has the merger between Canadian Pacific and kansas city southern been fully approved and finalized yet?
will there be a new paint scheme for CPKC or will we see something like the SP and rio grande where both rosters combined but kept their respective paint scheme
I would like to see a scheme that unifies both railroads with design elements from both railroads
maybe Frank Swafford can whip up an idea for a CPKC paintscheme
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@paigetrain posted:Has the merger between Canadian Pacific and kansas city southern been fully approved and finalized yet?
No.
will there be a new paint scheme for CPKC or will we see something like the SP and rio grande where both rosters combined but kept their respective paint scheme
Nobody knows, yet.
I would like to see a scheme that unifies both railroads with design elements from both railroads
How would THAT be accomplished?
maybe Frank Swafford can whip up an idea for a CPKC paintscheme
Just what the executatives of CP needs.
Not sure if this will really go down as a merger of equals, like Burlington Northern and Santa Fe becoming BNSF? My hunch is it's really CP taking over KCS. KCS replaces Soo Line as the CP's lines in the US. Given that some Soo Line engines kept their Soo paint into the 2010s - there might even be a couple out there still - I would guess KCS stuff will remain in those colors for a long time, perhaps eventually being repainted into CP lettering / colors
they are officially merged tomorrow
Cody- I too am excited about this merger, especially the possibility of a new paint scheme. Can’t wait to see what they come up with! JohnA
@John A posted:Cody- I too am excited about this merger, especially the possibility of a new paint scheme. Can’t wait to see what they come up with! JohnA
Well, I'm not excited about this merger at all, or any others that have occurred in the past 30+ years. One thing that made railroads interesting was the diversity of different lines and paint schemes. Much of that has been lost. Most recently, I was really bummed by the disappearance of the Santa Fe, not to mention the SP and Rio Grande and Soo Line. I'm unhappy that the great heritage of the Canadian Pacific is going to be lost, at least partially, by this merger and logo change, and that the KCS, about the last significant regional carrier and independent line, is going away. I'll really miss the KCS paint scheme, certainly one of the most ornate and colorful - and no doubt one of the most expensive - paint schemes in railroading.
The way I look at it, IF there is a new paint scheme, we can add it to our Canadian Pacific, Kansas City Southern, and other models we have. More variety for modelers. By modeling , fallen flags(and steam engines) can live on , in our basements! JohnA
I bought stock with the Illinois Central and the Kansas City Southern railroads during the 1990s. Now over 25 years later because of the mergers, my two American railroads are now Canadian. Makes tax time more fun! 
Hmmm... CPKC. If you try to pronounce the letters, it comes out as cupcake. Think about it!!
@paigetrain posted:will there be a new paint scheme for CPKC or will we see something like the SP and rio grande where both rosters combined but kept their respective paint scheme
I would like to see a scheme that unifies both railroads with design elements from both railroads
maybe Frank Swafford can whip up an idea for a CPKC paintscheme
Swafford is the man who could do it, for sure!
They've released the "combined logo", which is literally just the CPR beaver logo with 2 small extra KSC acronyms added to the banner. Somewhat telling about "who wears the pants" in this new marriage!
@Number 90 posted:Swafford is the man who could do it, for sure!
I simply pray it will not be a yellow or orange scheme. We already have a sufficient number of those.
@DylTrains posted:They've released the "combined logo", which is literally just the CPR beaver logo with 2 small extra KSC acronyms added to the banner. Somewhat telling about "who wears the pants" in this new marriage!
Maybe if they would show the beaver eating biscuits and gravy . . .
@Number 90 posted:Maybe if they would show the beaver eating biscuits and gravy . . .
. . . and some tacos with frijoles.
When the Soo Line 'merged' with the Milwaukee Road, it called itself something like "The Soo / Milwaukee System" for a couple of years. Then the Milwaukee was just folded into the Soo and disappeared. I suspect it's the same thing here, it will be "CPKC" officially but really it will really just be Canadian Pacific taking over KCS. It's unlikely there will be a new paint scheme, eventually it will all just be CP red (except maybe KCS-M and the Panama Canal Ry.?)
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