Make sure the brake slide is all the way up.

Rod Miller

romiller49 posted:

Make sure the brake slide is all the way up.

Rod Miller

He said that it was up.

shane posted:

The break slider is off on both CAB 2s

 shane

How about turning off odyssey itself?

Just curious, forward and reverse?

Hi, with the engine on the tracks did you try applying full brake? Did the engine stop when you did? 

If the engine stopped try releasing the brake fully and see what it does.  The engine will retain the last brake setting no matter where the slider is if moved when not addressing that engine. 

You could also try it in conventional and see what it does.

Doug

This no throttle response occurred during a run session with two young boys. He is using a Cab-1 base and remotes.

Shane,

check out the attached from the Complete Guide to Command Control. 3 things to try.

Well it could be momentum but eventually it should get to the target speed. Not sure how long he was throttling up before he determined it was crawling. It would be worth setting a low momentum. 

Double check for a mechanical issue such as traction tire or brake show binding. 

I am using cab2.   base and cabs have last lionel updates.

checked for a mechanical issue

applying full brake did not slow crawl down

crawl in forward and reverse

Looks like off to lionel!!!!

thanks for suggestions

shane

Does it ever get to a faster speed?  Or does it go so fast and then that's it?

I guess what I'm asking is, does it just take a long time to get to maximum speed or never does?

Why don't you send an email to Mike Reagan (mreagan@lionel.com) on Monday morning describing this problem and see if he can diagnose the cause? You'll need to be in contact with Lionel anyway to get an RA so there's no harm in asking.

My own experience with kids under the age about about 12 or 13 handling CAB 2 remotes is that they can't resist/avoid pressing some button or pulling the train brake slider instead of the whistle/bell control. In that context it is dead easy to alter an engine's momentum settings as the relevant buttons are more easily accessible than they are on a CAB 1.

Either that or the Odyssey switch on the engine (which someone has already suggested you try turning off) struck me as the likely cause of your problem but an alternative is a problem with the motor driver. If you have both motors running at slow speed I'd suspect a settings/software problem rather than anything mechanical although in my experience Legacy boards of the kind that I think are in your engine seldom fail - or not without an electrical short somewhere. 

Good luck and tell us the result please.

iT'S SOLVED

Turning odyssey off , it would not even crawl!!

I reprogrammed to restore features but this time I assigned a new engine #. It runs perfectly!!!!!!!!!

Thanks to all of you for your input. A lot of trial and error and a little serendipity saved the day!

shane

Well thats weird and good news.  I would have thunk just re-assigning it the same ID, which is the reset procedure, would have worked as well.

shane posted:

iT'S SOLVED

Turning odyssey off , it would not even crawl!!

I reprogrammed to restore features but this time I assigned a new engine #. It runs perfectly!!!!!!!!!

Thanks to all of you for your input. A lot of trial and error and a little serendipity saved the day!

shane

So that means that the engine number in the base has some max speed, etc. programmed in? Seems so. Lionel needs to get in on this. But maybe deleting the engine and then reprogramming with the same number would work as well.

I've had a situation where I had to use the LSU to clear an engine location in the Legacy base.  I couldn't fix it from the remote.  Once I cleared it with the LSU, everything was fine.

Way to go Shane. Good news for sure. I'll have to put this in my notes pad.

Rod Miller

Interesting - and weird and good, as stated above - I have had, over the years, a couple of TMCC locos that went weird on me - a rare occurrence, for sure - and re-assigning the (same or different) number cleared it up -didn't even need to do the Restore Features procedure. I call it the "Hello!" procedure.