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I am planning on running a DCS lashup with 2 Amtrak engines in the future and I have a few questions regarding that. But first I would like to mention the engines that I will be using in that lashup.

I will have an MTH Premier Amtrak "Wave" Genesis locomotive (product #20-20759-
1) and a MTH Premier Amtrak "Veterans" F40PH locomotive (product #20-20794-
1). Both engines feature marker lights and smoke units. But I would like to have the prime mover sounds and smoke unit off at all times for the F40PH, since the real one does not have a prime mover. I will also have 7 passenger cars in between them. Also, I will be using the DCS WiFi app for the operation. I want to be able to change which engine will be the leader just in the real world. I.E. have the Genesis be the leader for a certain amount of time and then have the F40PH be the leader instead, and etc.

So my first question is: Can I set the leading engine to have it's marker lights off and have the trailing engine have it's marker lights on (to denote the end of the train), or will I only be able to have the marker lights on for both engines in lash up mode? Of course change that whenever I want to have the engine at the other end be the leader.

Second question is: Will an engine set to have the smoke unit and prime mover sounds to be completely off, automatically default to have those settings on when I program them into a lashup? I would assume that I can go back into the engine list after creating the lashup (once I set the particular engine I want to modify to be active) and set everything back to how it should be, but that would be a bit of hassle if I would have to do that every time I have to restart the lashup.

Third question is: How will I be able to switch which locomotive is the leader without modifying the lashup? Would I have to go into the engine list to change the volume settings for each engine (set the now trailing engine to have horn and bell off and set the now leading engine to have horn and bell on, in the volume settings)? I would assume that the simpler alternative would be to have 2 lashups in the app, one with the Genesis loco as the leader and one with the F40PH as the leader.

Thanks to anyone who can provide help to my questions in advance!

I would also like to suggest MTH to put in a feature with DCS lashups, for the WiFi app. Where you can change smoke; lighting; and sound settings, without having to exit the lashup. Changing the sound and smoke settings for individual engines in the lashup would especially be useful if you are trying to simulate a freight train that is also a power move, since some engines in a power move might not have their prime movers active.

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First, you create the consist (lash-up) the regular way and point out which engine is the lead and have the other trailing. You select the direction they face in that train. Some of the lighting will operate automatically. Now that depends on each engine's sound set and lighting built in. When you reverse the train, the trailing engine automatically become the lead somewhat. The lights will change yet the sounds like horns, bells, etc. won't. They may stay with the given lead engine.

 Back to the lights, the lead engine should change most of the lights like a real train would. You may not like which ones do. You may have to change them for the trains direction to your liking.

 So I wouldn't state exactly what will happen right now. I would state that after you build the train, you then select each engine, and change any features you want to. You then select the save function to keep those features. That example would apply to one engine's smoke unit and engine sounds being off for example.

 There is another issue and it varies with engines used, DCS version flaws, etc. Sometimes even after saving the changes, the train will change settings after cycling the power. You may have to go back and shut the smoke off again for example. It should stay off but maybe not. It's just an example and I'd guess that it would be a certain light that may give you more problems. Somethings are variables that aren't carved in stone.

In the end you may find it easier to create 2 different trains, one for each direction. The sound and smoke should be retained then.

To make it even easier you may also shut off the volume and smoke pot on the F40. That way as you build, or make changes, the default setting of off should be retained better.

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Engineer-Joe posted:

First, you create the consist (lash-up) the regular way and point out which engine is the lead and have the other trailing. You select the direction they face in that train. Some of the lighting will operate automatically. Now that depends on each engine's sound set and lighting built in. When you reverse the train, the trailing engine automatically become the lead somewhat. The lights will change yet the sounds like horns, bells, etc. won't. They may stay with the given lead engine.

 Back to the lights, the lead engine should change most of the lights like a real train would. You may not like which ones do. You may have to change them for the trains direction to your liking.

 So I wouldn't state exactly what will happen right now. I would state that after you build the train, you then select each engine, and change any features you want to. You then select the save function to keep those features. That example would apply to one engine's smoke unit and engine sounds being off for example.

 There is another issue and it varies with engines used, DCS version flaws, etc. Sometimes even after saving the changes, the train will change settings after cycling the power. You may have to go back and shut the smoke off again for example. It should stay off but maybe not. It's just an example and I'd guess that it would be a certain light that may give you more problems. Somethings are variables that aren't carved in stone.

In the end you may find it easier to create 2 different trains, one for each direction. The sound and smoke should be retained then.

To make it even easier you may also shut off the volume and smoke pot on the F40. That way as you build, or make changes, the default setting of off should be retained better.

The marker lights are completely independent for the Genesis and F40PH. My Amtrak F40PH will most likely arrive on the 9th, so I won't be able to test it at the SD3Rs. But I do have a Tri-Rail F40PH in my collection, which is almost identical to my incoming Amtrak F40PH in terms of electronics and features. So I will bring it with me next weekend to test lashups with my Genesis.

I will definitely try having 2 lashups, but I will first try with just 1 lashup.

Turning off the volume and smoke pot on the engine most likely won't do anything to what they control, since the engine ignores those when it's in DCS mode.

MichaelB posted:

Turning off the volume and smoke pot on the engine most likely won't do anything to what they control, since the engine ignores those when it's in DCS mode.

It's a default that the engine can/will revert to. They do ignore the conventional settings under DCS. There are times when they do look at them however. My memory fails me but it has something to do with what the board looks at first. I got the idea from a post by GGG for another person having issues.

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