Decals for UP City Trains

At least talk to this guy -- https://ogrforum.com/member/amcdave

Who seems to be good at repaints and decals.

https://ogrforum.com/...eed-info-on-products   (see his example in the thread)

Sarah posted:

Have you ever tried to print your own decals or dry transfers?

No, but you might inquire of Clover House regarding dry transfers.

Try Microscale

They do stock some "O"

http://www.microscale.com/

If they don't stock it they will do custom work, but I'm not sure of the tariff!

And there is always the great auction.

Simon

Hi Sarah,

Can you specify the differences between the pre and post 1947 lettering?  P&D does indicate having E2 sets but 1950+.  I'm curious what changed.  

Custom or self made may be your only alternative at this point.  I believe the minimum for a Microscale custom run is 250 sets, so that doesn't seem like the best choice.  There are others such as Cedarleaf and Highball Graphics that offer short runs of custom decals.  If you can get your hands on artwork, the process should actually be pretty straightforward.

Jim

IIRC the two "O" versions Microscale had the lettering was silver or gold depending on set number, been a long time since I painted some. There has to be some sets sitting in a modelers drawer somewhere.

If you changed to later units, the Red is easier to reproduce!

Guys, you are great! Thanks. I'll write some emails.

Dear Jim, 

some aspects of these units still remain a mystery to me but I think the nose herald changed to wings when Streamliners became daily or short after. I can't really tell from the photos that I have. 

Micro wants 250 sheets to make a run. Already asked.

Dick

Regarding the winged photo I think I was dead wrong. That particular picture was taken in 44 and published in an UP railroad ad. They probably did not want to show the C&NW logo in their brochure. 

https://commons.wikimedia.org/...Los_Angeles_1944.JPG

All I found out so far is that the "CITY OF LOS ANGELES" Letters changed from gold on red to silver on red and "LA1" changed from gold to red. Thanks Bob. On photos, the silver looks a lot like white, but I guess one must avoid hand colored post cards.

AND it seems that "LA1" two and three changed from gold to red, sooner and the gold on red lettering lasted longer. 

That's a tough one as the UP only had 1 E2 A unit and 2 B units. 

Here's the best website I ever found for UP painting, lettering etc...

http://utahrails.net/up/up-die...aint-classic-era.php

Here's the gist of it...

"A later photo of LA-1 as UP 921A, taken on June 1, 1947, shows the unit with its original "T- shaped chrome multi herald emblem", a feature it was delivered with in October 1937. The unit's as-delivered appearance is shown in a dated photo in Denver on November 27, 1937. (Compare photos on page 165 of Don Strack's UP Diesels 1934-1982, Volume 1, and on page 198 of Kratville's The Streamliners.)"

And more...

"None of the jointly owned diesels for the "City" trains ever had wings while they were in joint ownership (thru the end of 1948)."

Sarah posted:

Dear Friends,

I was fortunate enough to get my hands on a set of Overland EMC-E2 Units and now I find myself in the position of not finding any decals for a PRE 1947 CITY OF SF / LA lettering. All is there in HO and even N scale but not so in O. Have you any hints for me? I tried Allegheny O Scale and PD hobby shop. Have you ever tried to print your own decals or dry transfers? Wow, that's so sad. 

 

Sarah

Sarah

contact me thru my email here , I can make the decals  Bernie