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Ah, NO, not that type of trick (dirty minds).

 

I was asked how or why the term trick was used in railroad.  I know that it refers to the shifts of the depot agent, dispatchers, telegraphers, etc., basically any non road employees (engineer, conductor, brakeman etc).

 

For all my 400+ books I haven't found an etymology for the words origin.

 

Anyone care to contribute their knowledge?

 

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It's a nautical term.

 

Trick: The period of time during which the helmsman remains at the wheel/helm,  - "my trick's over"...

 

My grandfather worked in boiler operation at a coal burning electric plant until 1971. He always referred to his rotating day/night schedule as being "trick work" - he would let us know his schedule by indicating which "trick" he was on for the week.

Originally Posted by Wyhog:

You are a trained dog. You do tricks for the company for a number of hours for food (wages).

When your tricks are done the next dog comes in and does his tricks.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the origin of  the "other" kind of tricks isn't related. In general either way you are doing an unpleasant job for money.

 

 

I agree about being unpleasant but pays the bills.  But why would anyone possibly ever hate a RR job?  REALLY??   Thought every RR loved his/her job.

Originally Posted by rrman:
Originally Posted by Wyhog:

You are a trained dog. You do tricks for the company for a number of hours for food (wages).

When your tricks are done the next dog comes in and does his tricks.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the origin of  the "other" kind of tricks isn't related. In general either way you are doing an unpleasant job for money.

 

 

I agree about being unpleasant but pays the bills.  But why would anyone possibly ever hate a RR job?  REALLY??   Thought every RR loved his/her job.

You have obviously not experienced the pleasures of working at all hours of the night, being away from home at least 50% of the time, and never knowing when you are ever going to work.

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by rrman:
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I agree about being unpleasant but pays the bills.  But why would anyone possibly ever hate a RR job?  REALLY??   Thought every RR loved his/her job.

You have obviously not experienced the pleasures of working at all hours of the night, being away from home at least 50% of the time, and never knowing when you are ever going to work.

Hot Water, should have said <sarcasm off>.  Read enough books and magazines to realize RR ain't the most funner job.

I once did a "hat trick" (3 time slips in a 24 hour period) on Christmas Eve:

Deadhead by bus from OKC to Tulsa Cherokee yard...took loaded grain extra back to OKC...called on my rest to take the same train to Quanah, TX for FW&D delivery.  HoHoHo.

I have heard of crews clearing a mainline of hog-law trains and turning in 5 time slips in one trick.  I think they had some combative conversation with the Timekeeper.

It's interesting that none of the usual resources give the etymology of "Trick" when used as a synonym for "Shift", although most of them do mention the nautical use as a turn at the helm for 2 to 4 hours.  I can only guess that the early railroaders adopted this term from their seafaring counterparts.  Railroading and sailing were among the few professions that worked around the clock until the use of electricity became common.

 

On a side note, I've worked a rotating shift for many years now, and even before I started shift work, I was subject to callout at any time.  Working all hours of the night in a remote location can be a surreal experience, and covering 3rd shift is exhausting as well as mind numbing.  I'm fortunate that my present job has a safer work environment than the one a railroad crew experiences; I have nothing but the utmost respect for the railroaders who work around the clock in all kinds of weather. 

Last edited by WindupGuy
Originally Posted by WindupGuy:

  I can only guess that the early railroaders adopted this term from their seafaring counterparts.  Railroading and sailing were among the few professions that worked around the clock until the use of electricity became common.

I believe but not sure, if basic early RR whistle signals were borrowed from steam boating whistles, like start, reverse and stopped. 

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
You have obviously not experienced the pleasures of working at all hours of the night, being away from home at least 50% of the time, and never knowing when you are ever going to work.

How about this being close enough? My grandfather(retired SP Engineer) and my father(retired SP Conductor)made me promise to never work for any railroad. They did not want me to work as hard as they had in conditions as hazardous. It seemed like my father was never home. After he retired he went to work for a local shortline. It was nice to have him home. Almost like a regular job.

 

After college I entered the medical profession. I was almost never home on a regular basis. Conditions were just as hazardous, just in different ways. 

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