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Hi,

i am new to the forum, even though I have been reading it for years. 

My problem is with a Lionel Lionmaster WM Challenger,   6-82698.  While running trains I had an accident.  The Challenger was parked on a siding and the engine was shut down.  Now the siding is still powered.  As I was running a passenger train on the main line, the Challenger silently crept out to the main line striking a passenger car causing a derailment.  This accident occurred at very low speed.  I shut all power off to the entire layout, then removed the involved engine and cars from the track.  They were repositioned as normal.  However, upon powering up the track it immediately shorted out.  

I removed the Challenger and tender and re powered the track.  No short and all other trains ran perfectly.  Whenever the Challenger and tender were on the track the track would short out.  With just the Challenger returned to the track, no short.  When just the tender was positioned on the track, immediate short.  Therefore through this process it is the tender that is causing the short.  Detailed inspection of the tender fails to reveal any cause for the short.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Sonny 

Last edited by Rich Melvin
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Hi,

Through process of elimination, I have isolated the problem to the coil coupler on the tender.  It touches the frame, smokes and chatters continuously in the open position.  Called Lionel, however, they are only doing warranty repair.  Referred me to Charles Ro and suppplied phone number.  Contacted Charles Ro and will probably ship there for repair, unless I find a better and closer option.

This is the second time I have tried to have an out of warranty repair done by Lionel and on both occasions they have been so backed up with warranty repairs that they cannot do out of warranty repairs.  Very frustrating.

Sonny in Virginia

No disrespect but most likely Lionel simply doesn't have the man power to handle non warranty repairs and that may be the case forever. Charles Ro will certainly take care of you with a quality repair and a much faster turn around. Since you know what the problem is you will gain great satisfaction trying and accomplishing the repair on your own. Try it, it's fun.

Rod Miller

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