Does Anyone Have Any Good Pictures of NYC's Electrics?

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I feel your pain, and that of the dead horse, too.  Remember, though, that some people who are not in front of a computer all day for a living, or a diversion, are timid and unsure of themselves when straying off the beaten path of the web. I have actually, this year, met a few people to whom "do a Google search" meant nothing.

I have been admonished NOT to suggest Google for the reason that "If the person tries Google first and gets the answer, then all the rest of the members lose out on discussing the information."

The recent relay thread is an example, but even more frustrating. The OP asked about the wiring of a relay, since the original instructions were lost. The terminal assignments were printed right on the relay. A quick Google search would have brought up a similar image, with the info right there.

On other fora, where snarkiness and sarcasm are tolerated (not saying that's a good thing...this forum is known for its general politeness and diplomacy) there is an answer that we use:  "LMGTFY" which in itself needs to be Googled to be deciphered and appreciated. But because of the nature of the reply, even THAT gets questioned by the cluelesscenti.

Isn't the purpose of a forum like this to discuss and exchange information?  I've seen photos and gotten information on here that was not available on Google.

Shoving someone to Google kind of defeats the purpose of a place like this, IMO.

Eddie Marra posted:

Isn't the purpose of a forum like this to discuss and exchange information?  I've seen photos and gotten information on here that was not available on Google.

Shoving someone to Google kind of defeats the purpose of a place like this, IMO.

Exactly! It's not like I can Google a photo that's in someone's photo album.

"It's not like I can Google a photo that's in someone's photo album."

Yes, you can, if they posted it to the web for some reason. But we are beating the same horse. We are not talking about obscuring interesting images. We are talking about a person willing to Google, AND THEN post the interesting images for all to see, instead of just sitting back and expecting others to do the searching for them. (Present company excepted.)

But what if they hadn't posted it to the web until this question came up, it brought it to mind, and they were kind enough to put it on here?

Not too long ago I was looking for information on the 1960's restoration of The General locomotive, as there wasn't anything of any substance on Google.  Someone on here not only had some good information, but a ton of photos I didn't see anywhere on an online search.

You're assuming that the person is lazy and doesn't want to search online.  What if they want to see some photos as well as maybe hear some stories about these locomotives?

That's why some young people get turned off by this hobby.  There are those who choose not to be social and just shut a question off by, "Look it up yourself, kid!"

Eddie Marra posted:

But what if they hadn't posted it to the web until this question came up, it brought it to mind, and they were kind enough to put it on here?

Not too long ago I was looking for information on the 1960's restoration of The General locomotive, as there wasn't anything of any substance on Google.  Someone on here not only had some good information, but a ton of photos I didn't see anywhere on an online search.

You're assuming that the person is lazy and doesn't want to search online.  What if they want to see some photos as well as maybe hear some stories about these locomotives?

That's why some young people get turned off by this hobby.  There are those who choose not to be social and just shut a question off by, "Look it up yourself, kid!"

Back in the day, we had to go to the library and either look for books on a certain subject or check the encyclopedia...

Rusty

Found these by googling "New York Central electric locomotives images".
I do not mind anyone asking for ideas or help with something as we all can learn from this effort

Hope this helps there are more as I m interested in them too for my prewar locos.
Would love to make a standard gauge steeple cab.

RonH posted:

Found these by googling "New York Central electric locomotives images".
I do not mind anyone asking for ideas or help with something as we all can learn from this effort

Hope this helps there are more as I m interested in them too for my prewar locos.
Would love to make a standard gauge steeple cab.

Good reading on the NYC S-Motor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NYC_S-Motor

Railfan Brody posted:

Eddie Marra posted:

Isn't the purpose of a forum like this to discuss and exchange information?  I've seen photos and gotten information on here that was not available on Google.

Shoving someone to Google kind of defeats the purpose of a place like this, IMO.

Exactly! It's not like I can Google a photo that's in someone's photo album.

What is good to do is look for books at a really good price. 

Brody, lots of the research from the olden days and thus most of the pictures went into books.  Because of copyright laws a lot of those good pictures are hiding in books and can't legally be posted on the internet. 

If you like electric trains you could look for "When the Steam Roads Electrified".  It has a lot of good pictures in it and it explains a lot of the electric railroad technology.   

If it were in a railroad book library somewhere I'd buy you a subscription so you could read up on all of the good things that you will never find in an internet search. 

Sorry I couldn't thank everyone earlier, I just finished my last final exams, which I have been studying for, and I passed all of my classes. Also, speaking of last, today is the last day of school for me, so let summer begin! 

Also, on the topic of steam to electric power in New York, I came across this video by K&L Trainz, and it is definitely worth seeing. It covers the Lindbergh special between Washington DC and Manhattan pulled by PRR Atlantic #460. Near the end of the video, there is a scene at the Manhattan Transfer, where the 460 is replaced by a DD1.

BTW, I heard from Steve Lerro (the maker of this video) that the transition scene at 3:00 took him two hours to make!