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alright this is strange to me

I was researching southern pacific paint schemes trying to figure out specifically what diesels wore my 2 most favorite espee schemes the black widow and the halloween scheme when i fell down a rabbit hole and discovered a lot of experimental schemes that Espee was toying with for the Rio grande merger. i saw hand drawings for some from an old 1989 magazine. two of them actually bore similar elements to the black widow scheme. from what i found the SP had a primer unit that it would paint up in a test scheme and photograph then repaint into another scheme and repeat the process.

its a shame the SP never picked one of these special schemes because they all look better than what we actually got but the costs of such paint was probably to much and the espee was already struggling enough with having to be purchased by the rio grande

i plan on making one of these schemes the scheme for my free lanced Fenix Pacific if not use all 3 for different eras of my railroad

i will post links to these images hopefully i don't get in trouble



https://mobile.twitter.com/sneakystevegod

they were on this twitter feed. apparently the dude found them on a forum

you have to scroll to find them

he retweeted them from another feed here

https://mobile.twitter.com/_al...330466680832/photo/1

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I have always enjoyed the Black Widow scheme.  This is a fun variation on it that ran for a few years on the Arizona Eastern that runs from Miami, AZ about 70 miles east of Phoenix east to Globe, across the San Carlos Apache Nation, and eventually connects to the SP Sunset Route in Bowie, AZ not far from the New Mexico Border.  As it is on the other side of the mountains from Phoenix, it does not run west to Phoenix.  The railroad has historically been a copper ore hauling road but also runs some merchandise freight.  It is a former SP route and there is a nicely preserved SP Mogul in a park in downtown Globe.  When they had this E8 they did a short excursion that served a nice lunch on-board.

My photos from 2010.  The first car is a former ATSF Big Dome and the rear car is a heavyweight IC Pullman lounge converted to a round end observation by IC in the 1940's.  Sadly when Genesee & Wyoming purchased the AZ Eastern all of this disappeared.  In the second photo you get a glimpse of the Globe station that is much more grand than the city ever was.

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