I would be game for super chief cars to run a combo!
I am a little confused, Are you guys talking about a 2nd run of the Golden Gate Depot '51 Super Chief? I would be very interested!!! I missed out when they were made and they are impossible to find on the secondary market. Also I would be interested in extra sleepers too.
My mistake, I just read rdunniii's post (for some reason it didn't load on my phone the first time I looked). I would still be interested in the four car set and extra sleepers.
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Just a few Super Chief cars John. A 2nd full run of the El Capitan, and a few SC cars for those wanting to run a combined train. He's NOT talking about a 2nd run of the entire SC set, just a few cars.
Skirts removed, late epoch detailing to match the combined SC/El Cap timeframe. Scott's 51' SC is 51'. I love these models for this reason; however Scott should modify the cars for 1957-1960's.
Just received GGD's August update via email... and great news to see the 2nd production run of the El Cap cars is now a "go". I was lucky to grab a standby 8-car set from the first run, but I'm looking forward to a few more ala-carte cars which will likely come from the 2nd production run now. Even if delivery floats into 2016, I'm fine with that.
David
I just read the update too. There was no mention of super chief cars to make a combined super chief / El Cap. Is that "officially" not happening or is it still a possibility?
I posted this in the "GGD whats next" thread but it very much applies to this discussion too for a possible project....
A complete late 50's deskirted Super Chief could work well. I'm sure it would be popular with the F7's arriving from multiple manufacturers. It could be done in (2) 4 car sets with the second (set B) of the 4 car sets being what is necessary to make up a El Cap / SC combined train. Set A could contain the head end cars and cars not needed for the combined train. This would allow the ability to order a complete "late era" super chief and/or just the second set of cars (set B) necessary to make an El Cap / SC combined train. It could essentially cover 2 trains in one production run and appeal to many more people than just a single train would (while still being accurate for each train).
The only issue I see is the drumhead, which could be solved by having the observation being an extra car ( and not included in "set B"). The observation could have 2 different options (one with the SC drumhead & one with the SC/EL CAP combined drumhead) which would require very little extra effort from the original design. Then one could order the full train (Set A & B) and each drumhead option for the observation cars and be able to have everything covered.
If you really wanted to spice it up. A Santa Fe Big Dome would be an awesome additional car for "extra" cars.
Maybe some rivet counters could chime in and critique my idea.
A complete late 50's deskirted Super Chief could work well. I'm sure it would be popular with the F7's arriving from multiple manufacturers. It could be done in (2) 4 car sets with the second (set B) of the 4 car sets being what is necessary to make up a El Cap / SC combined train. Set A could contain the head end cars and cars not needed for the combined train. This would allow the ability to order a complete "late era" super chief and/or just the second set of cars (set B) necessary to make an El Cap / SC combined train. It could essentially cover 2 trains in one production run and appeal to many more people than just a single train would (while still being accurate for each train).
The only issue I see is the drumhead, which could be solved by having the observation being an extra car ( and not included in "set B"). The observation could have 2 different options (one with the SC drumhead & one with the SC/EL CAP combined drumhead) which would require very little extra effort from the original design. Then one could order the full train (Set A & B) and each drumhead option for the observation cars and be able to have everything covered.
If you really wanted to spice it up. A Santa Fe Big Dome would be an awesome additional car for "extra" cars.
Maybe some rivet counters could chime in and critique my idea.
Originally Posted by BigJohn&theWork:
I posted this in the "GGD whats next" thread but it very much applies to this discussion too for a possible project....
A complete late 50's deskirted Super Chief could work well. I'm sure it would be popular with the F7's arriving from multiple manufacturers. It could be done in (2) 4 car sets with the second (set B) of the 4 car sets being what is necessary to make up a El Cap / SC combined train. Set A could contain the head end cars and cars not needed for the combined train. This would allow the ability to order a complete "late era" super chief and/or just the second set of cars (set B) necessary to make an El Cap / SC combined train. It could essentially cover 2 trains in one production run and appeal to many more people than just a single train would (while still being accurate for each train).
The only issue I see is the drumhead, which could be solved by having the observation being an extra car ( and not included in "set B"). The observation could have 2 different options (one with the SC drumhead & one with the SC/EL CAP combined drumhead) which would require very little extra effort from the original design. Then one could order the full train (Set A & B) and each drumhead option for the observation cars and be able to have everything covered.
If you really wanted to spice it up. A Santa Fe Big Dome would be an awesome additional car for "extra" cars.
Maybe some rivet counters could chime in and critique my idea.
A complete late 50's deskirted Super Chief could work well. I'm sure it would be popular with the F7's arriving from multiple manufacturers. It could be done in (2) 4 car sets with the second (set B) of the 4 car sets being what is necessary to make up a El Cap / SC combined train. Set A could contain the head end cars and cars not needed for the combined train. This would allow the ability to order a complete "late era" super chief and/or just the second set of cars (set B) necessary to make an El Cap / SC combined train. It could essentially cover 2 trains in one production run and appeal to many more people than just a single train would (while still being accurate for each train).
The only issue I see is the drumhead, which could be solved by having the observation being an extra car ( and not included in "set B"). The observation could have 2 different options (one with the SC drumhead & one with the SC/EL CAP combined drumhead) which would require very little extra effort from the original design. Then one could order the full train (Set A & B) and each drumhead option for the observation cars and be able to have everything covered.
If you really wanted to spice it up. A Santa Fe Big Dome would be an awesome additional car for "extra" cars.
Maybe some rivet counters could chime in and critique my idea.
I think that a rerun of the Super Chief set is a great idea. I have been looking for the complete set so I would like to see all of the cars produced in the second run. I do not think that the existing tooling would need to be modified since the first run of Super Chief cars includes 5 skirted cars and 5 "de-skirted" cars, from what I could see in the photos. So, the GGD Super Chief cars did not really represent 1951 cars, but the later '50's cars with a mix of skirted and de-skirted cars. The idea of a Set A and Set B with one set containing just the cars needed for the combined train would probably be the best way to market them to both groups, those who want the whole Super Chief train and those who just want the cars for the combined SC/El Cap train.
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If it's stainless and says Santa Fe... it will sell
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