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Question.  I have  CN Tank Train set from 2002.  I just opened the set to run it today.  It was in a sealed box, never opened.  Everything worked except the front and rear electro couplers.  They make the railounds uncoupling sound and I can here the buzz of the electromagnet, but they won't uncouple.  This is a TMCC Cab 1 version, not Legacy.  I can manually push in the plunger and they spring open so the coupler itself is ok.  I can see the plunger move when I push the button on the remote but it looks like its not pulling in far enough to release the coupler.  My question is can these go bad from sitting for so many years?  Seems odd both would be defective from factory.  I tried some lubrication, but the plunger is not pulling in anywhere near enough to release them.  Could it be a bad board, maybe not getting enough voltage? I'm not sure how they are powered.

 

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Thanks.  I'm using 18volts, and tried some graphite lubricant.  They don't seem stuck as the plungers move in and out freely.  I guess I could remove it from the engine and apply voltage to it separately and see if it works?  If it does then would it be a board issue? 
 
 
Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

First off, make sure the track voltage is at least 16 volts.

 

Next, you want to try some dry lubricant like graphite on them.

 

 

Ok so I took the body off and disconnected the connector to the electro couplers.  Then I applied 16 volts to them directly from the transformer and they worked perfectly.  So its not the electro couplers either mechanically or electrically.  If I turn the transformer up to 20 volts, they work.  I'm running all Legacy so I never have voltage above 18.  Every other engine I have the couplers work fine at the 18 volt setting.  So then I measured the voltage at the connector on the board itself.  When I trigger the electro coupler, the voltage jumps up to between 11-13 volts only.  it varies, so it looks like the couplers aren't getting the minimum voltage?

 

Not sure where to go from here.

 

The track has 18volts and everything else works fine. 

 

There is a big long board that has 3 plug in boards on it and then another board inside a heat sink type bracket.   The 3 boards are labeled.  RS3 Audio, RS Power, R2LC.

The electro couplers plug into the big long board that the 3 modules above plug into. 

 

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Electrocoupler pulses are generated from the R2LC board (the board on the left in your photo).  Try unplugging and replugging that board a few times to clean the contacts between it and the big motherboard below.  Sitting in the box for 12 years could have let the contacts oxidize.  Voltage is being lost somewhere.

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

You can also swap the R2LC and reprogram it for this unit and see if that helps.  That will eliminate the R2LC triacs.

 

 

Thank you.  What do the Triacs do?  Sorry, I'm not familiar with the electronics in these locomotives yet. Never had problems with any of my Legacy locos, so I have never had to dig into it, but I have a few older TMCC units I'm now pulling out of storage and testing.

I was using a KW transformer on a test track to test this engine.  I did check the output and it reads 18v, however I decided to hook up my ZW-L to the test track instead.  Now the couplers work every single time.  I must have tried them 25-30 times and they opened every time.  I'm baffled at why this one engine does not like the KW.  If I hook the KW back up, couplers don't work.  All my legacy engines do work with the KW though.  One other thing I noticed is that when the train is on the track and power is applied to the track, there is a pretty loud buzz coming from the engine speakers.  As soon as you start up the engine's Railsounds, it goes away.  There was a slight buzz with the KW too but not as loud as with the ZW-L.  Do these older TMCC engines buzz through the speakers when track power is applied?  Or does anyone else know what could cause this buzzing?  Seems to me there is still something up with this engine, but its the first Non-Legacy engine I have run.  Here is a video with the noise before engine start, after engine start, after engine shutdown.

 

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