Engine identification

A shell swap seams most likely here with no way to see and hear how it runs id pop the shell of and see what kind of electronics are inside it

Thanks Zhubl, I have never had a issue like this. I don’t really care that it’s not legacy but would like to have an idea what it could be so I could get or down load a instruction manual. I talked to my friend and he did say he heard it start up and it sounded great led front led light , mars light flashing , side led light all working and ran forward super slow. But that’s all the info he gave me.

Hello Michael I looked up your locomotive in the Greenberg's Guide 2020 (6-38597) and they were in the 2012-2013 Lionel catalogs. I have a set of the Santa Fe F-3's and the switches are located under the front truck. If you want an owners manual you can go to the Lionel Parts site and go to Resources tab top left they go to Owners Manual and you can print it at home. I looked on the Lionel parts site and they are showing the same photos of the Silver Burlington F-3 #'s 9962-A &9962-C that you have. It looks like you have the original locomotives from Lionel and you'll be able to get parts if you need them. Good Luck with them.  Gary

https://www.lionelsupport.com/ReplacementParts

It can’t be the 2013 release as the switches are under the truck and not under the access hatch. That’s why I’d pull the shell and see if you have a legacy encoder on a fly wheel and what the part number on the sound card says that could help narrow down what you have there. Of course if they also moved over the RCMC and a RS Lite board it’ll be hard to tell at that point it just has a different/ older frame.

That’s great Gary thanks, so are we looking at a legacy equipped engine just with the controls on the bottom.

I am going to pull the shell now than take some shots

Ok just pulled the shell, somebody was already in here because one of the body posts are broken not a big deal. Ok here are the pics

If you can get in closer on this chip we might have a better idea what this use to be but definitely a older Odyssey I locomotive with TMCC

Also noticed this.

I was going to service the smoke unit and noticed the coils around the Heating element loose I’m like a stupid question but I don’t think it’s gonna work my correct

Shell swap it is.

Red interior, plus F 19 on the audio chip. These look like the "innards" of TMCC Santa Fe F3's with the lead unit being #19.

http://www.lionel.com/products...9-dmy-a-19c-6-14588/

When you get to trying it you will probably have SF dialogue confirming this.

Hope your friend got a "really " good deal.

And the truth is revealed. If I was a betting man I’d say that element is shot in every way imaginable

Thanks guys, I would have never have figured this out on my own. I got the price out of my buddy. 300 bucks 🤷🏻‍♂️And now I guess a smoke unit.

If it runs like it should and all the lights work $300 isn't a bad deal.  Smoke units are a maintenance item anyway. You could start off with a new resistor and go from there.

Lionel still has a fair amount of parts for these. Keep in mind theres flat rate shipping for $9 or $10.

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...ON=productPartFilter

Thanks Rick, man how did you pick up on the red interior. I thank you and to all that helped figure it out.