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Caught an episode of "The Fugitive" earlier this week - "The 2130" (Season 3, Episode 27, with Melvyn Douglas). Scene set in Portland (OR), but looks like filmed in LA area. Several shots, from various angles in same stretch of track, of short freight led by ALCO PA No. 75.

The "Santa Fe" lettering on the locomotive nose, and on the side in the circle cross logo, was covered. Yet there was a large Santa Fe sign above a building at upper right in a shot from an overpass. And plenty of Santa Fe cars in the yard. And logos and lettering of other roads' box cars in the train not obscured.

So, wondering what the reason might have been for covering up "Santa Fe." My main guess is, to dissociate the railroad from some of the action in the scenes - police officer in the scene grabbing ladder of passing boxcar and hauling himself up; chases and shooting. Person being chased and police scrambling under and between cars of stopped train. Secondary guess - something to do with Portland setting.

Thoughts?

David

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It’s always been a mystery to me why the Santa Fe didn’t like showing its name on engines used in movies or TV series.

In the Rock Hudson/Doris Day comedy, Send Me No Flowers (1964), Hudson and Tony Randall are seen commuting to work and back on Santa Fe’s San Diegans, getting off at the Fullerton Station. The ALCO PA engines pulling the trains are obviously Santa Fe. But again, the Santa Fe name is painted over in the nose of the PA. I’ve never understood why. 🤷‍♂️

It’s always been a mystery to me why the Santa Fe didn’t like showing its name on engines used in movies or TV series.

In the Rock Hudson/Doris Day comedy, Send Me No Flowers (1964), Hudson and Tony Randall are seen commuting to work and back on Santa Fe’s San Diegans, getting off at the Fullerton Station. The ALCO PA engines pulling the trains are obviously Santa Fe. But again, the Santa Fe name is painted over in the nose of the PA. I’ve never understood why. 🤷‍♂️

Just my opinion but, I'm pretty sure that no railroad company wanted their name & logo displayed in any Hollywood movie production, knowing how distorted a movie could be.

So, here's accurate information about the Santa Fe and Hollywood:

Santa Fe's Los Angeles Public Relations and Passenger Traffic Departments enjoyed a very close relationship with producers and studios.  The railroad loved to have its fine passenger trains used in second-unit scenes, as well as in scripted scenes where the actors were portrayed as being aboard a train.  Santa Fe's L.A. Passenger Traffic Department had personal relationships with many celebrities, providing a private number to make travel reservations, and also gave them special boarding privileges and private hospitality in the stations at Pasadena and Los Angeles.  Aboard the train, they were also treated specially, with their personal preferences known and accommodated.  Of all the railroads, Santa Fe had the greatest amount of celebrity clientele, and the Company courted performers and actors with discretion and class.  As a bonus, Santa Fe had a station in Pasadena, which was convenient to the more upscale parts of Los Angeles, where most of the famous passengers lived.  The railroad would see to it that there was never a gaggle of reporters or press photographers at the station -- just one reporter and one photographer, and most celebrities were agreeable to being photographed boarding, or alighting from, a shiny stainless steel Santa Fe passenger car.

Of the three Los Angeles railroads (Santa Fe, Southern Pacific, Union Pacific) Santa Fe was by far the most successful in working with movie studios, as well as actors and entertainers.  Union Pacific was featured in a couple of episodes of I Love Lucy, in which the Ricardos and the Mertzes were traveling to Hollywood by train, and there were not-too-subtle mentions of the City of Los Angeles, UP's premier train.

SP also got into the act (groaner pun) but mainly in second-unit filming of trains passing or arriving at stations.  While quite successful in second-unit film footage, they did not provide luxury train service at the same level that the City of Los Angeles or the Super Chief did, and that resulted in them falling far behind the competition for scripted use of SP trains.

And no . . . Santa Fe did not get royalties (!) for use of its image.  Santa Fe ran a very high class passenger business and did not make crude demands of the motion picture industry.  If the script mentioned that a character had left for Chicago aboard the Super Chief, well, that was fine, but was never a requirement.  Special train consists were provided for filming scenes when necessary, at cost, just enough to offset the railroad employee wages.

Santa Fe courted passengers and use of its image by the motion picture industry, always with professionality, pride, and dignity.

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So, here's accurate information about the Santa Fe and Hollywood:

Santa Fe's Los Angeles Public Relations and Passenger Traffic Departments enjoyed a very close relationship with producers and studios. 

Of the three Los Angeles railroads (Santa Fe, Southern Pacific, Union Pacific) Santa Fe was by far the most successful in working with movie studios, as well as actors and entertainers.  

Santa Fe courted passengers and use of its image by the motion picture industry, always with professionality, pride, and dignity.

Walt Disney had a personal connection to the Santa Fe, with his uncle, Mike Martin, being an engineer on the line, and the railroad basically bisected his early hometown of Marceline, Missouri.

Santa Fe was the only railroad to accept sponsorship of a new entertainment endeavor in the mid-1950s called "Disneyland." They sponsored the "Santa Fe & Disneyland Ry." for nearly 20 years. The Santa Fe logo and travel posters could be found throughout the park; Santa Fe handed out special tickets to the park on its name trains; hosted a lavish train of press and dignitaries on the SF&D's first anniversary, featured it several times in its in-house magazine, and basically treated the narrow-gauge SF&D Ry like a beloved younger brother.

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