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jojofry posted:
Hot Water posted:
jojofry posted:

The T1 is sick. Is the 2100 the only one with black wheels ?

Apparently yes, as it is the only model that represents a Reading T1 in the "original" freight service livery of the 1940s/1950s.

Thanks I love that total black look. This engine reminds me of the s3 ..

Well, if the catalog is accurate, both 2100 and 2119 are depicted with black wheels with no whitewalls nor yellow trim pieces along the boiler.  However, 2102 and 2124 are depicted as "Reading Rambles" models with the whitewall wheel trim and yellow trim detail.

The T1 may be the "sleeper" locomotive offering of the year, with many dealers already sold out (or extremely limited inventory) of the 2102, 2119 and 2124 models.  Although the price is steep for a non-articulated locomotive, the whistle is winning the hearts and ears of enthusiasts.  And it's proving to be a tough steamer to pass up.  Also, the fact that these 4-8-4 locomotives are rated for O-54 curves gives them a much broader appeal to enthusiasts with small- to modest-sized layouts who can actually run these locomotives quite nicely.

David

Last edited by Rocky Mountaineer

I agree with you Jojofry, this T1 seems like an over achiever... a nice surprise, whatever you want to call it.  Of course it came out more expensive than the S3, but regardless it looks pretty cool, and yes the close coupling also gives those two engines a common and attractive feature to "tie them together".  I think it looks and sounds great.  I just wish I hadn't sold my S3 a few years back, what was I thinking... I won't let go of this one!

Ben 

Rocky Mountaineer posted:
jojofry posted:
... This engine reminds me of the s3 ...

Except the S3 carried a $995 MSRP in 2011, whereas the T1 carries a $1700 MSRP only five years later.    How many folks here received a salary increase like that in 5 years?  

David

On top of that,the s3 is a much larger northern. 6 inches longer than the t1 making it even more bang for the 995 buck.

banelson posted:

I agree with you Jojofry, this T1 seems like an over achiever... a nice surprise, whatever you want to call it.  Of course it came out more expensive than the S3, but regardless it looks pretty cool, and yes the close coupling also gives those two engines a common and attractive feature to "tie them together".  I think it looks and sounds great.  I just wish I hadn't sold my S3 a few years back, what was I thinking... I won't let go of this one!

Ben 

Thanks that's what I think too..

Another question is... in 5 years will these be widely available or tightly held and hard to find?  My guess is that they won't be widely available, and maybe that's what will be most in common with the S3. 

As for it being 6 inches smaller, I am always happy to see some smaller engines with a lot of great detail and bells and whistles.  The smaller ones always look better on my pedestrian layout. 

Ben 

Rocky Mountaineer posted:
jojofry posted:
... This engine reminds me of the s3 ...

Except the S3 carried a $995 MSRP in 2011, whereas the T1 carries a $1700 MSRP only five years later.    How many folks here received a salary increase like that in 5 years?  

David

The S3 price was rare and beautiful anomaly. Even at the time that price was REALLY low. I'm not sure how they swung that, but boy what an engine for the money. One of my all time favorites!

-Eric Siegel

jojofry posted:
Toyspecialist posted:

Jojo,

 T1  is not similar to the S3..!!DSCN0957

Dude really I was talking about the close coupling and how a hit that engine was. The t1 has the chance to be like the s3 . 

I agree with a few of you T-1 stole the show.  I don't think the price is a huge ordeal.   I mean it's certainly not cheap but on par with similar offerings.   Glad I got one.  really wished I would have gotten one on the readings now to go with the chessie.   IMO.  very similar to the s3.   more importantly when u wait for something and it's actually worth the wait.   Nice job Lionel.

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We should also consider the Vision Line 700E. That was $1600 in 2010 - still less than any of 2016's Volume 1 Legacy steamers (minus the 0-8-0's). Considering the price would be dropped a bit by friendly Lionel dealers, that's a steal by last year's standards!

That being said, the new T-1 does have a lot in common with the S-3 - all new tooling and kinematic drawbar, for starters. In spite of the price, I think Lionel really got this one right.

ericstrains.com posted:
 

The S3 price was rare and beautiful anomaly. Even at the time that price was REALLY low. I'm not sure how they swung that, but boy what an engine for the money. One of my all time favorites!

-Eric Siegel

The S3 price was actually in line with the Legacy Santa Fe 3751 and 3759 as well as the first Lionel UP FEF.

Interestingly enough, the prices of what I mentioned above are in line with MTH's current version of UP FEFs or NKP Scale Berks.

Lionel's recent 4-8-4s appear to be very good models that are good runners.  But I'm not sure why they are priced close to what a Vision Line Challenger from a few years ago cost.  Something doesn't add up......in my book.

Eric,

Loved video and seeing Legacy station and all of your purchases. That haul would have been stretched out over about a 5 year period for me, so very happy for you.

I have to say though that it is refreshing to see someone with such a detailed layout and scale trains appreciating tinplate. I am hoping the New Haven set is episode 61.

Really look forward to your reviews and have watched some of them more than once.

Joe Gozzo

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