ERR Cruise Commander Install, engine takes off!

Check the serial data wire for good connection, and in proper location.  Also, using cab1?  And, have you set an ID number for engine and programed the ERR CC?

Jesse

Did you integrate sound too and what sound set if you did?  G

Sounds like it's not programmed properly.

No sound.  Serial Data Wire?  Using Cab1.  Set the CC to 5, then 6, neither worked.  It's an r4lc on the board.  

I tried setting Feature Code 5 and 6 and doesn't help.

If I'm reading right all I have to do is put the engine into program mode, then power on track.  Press AUX1, then press 5, and then turn off track power and put the engine back into run mode to change to Feature Code right?

I left the speed steps and motor size alone.  

If nothing is plugged into the sound connector and you've correctly programmed it, I'd start by swapping the R4LC, you can use an R2LC-C08 or later if you don't have another ERR R4LC for TMCC.  If that doesn't do it, the CC is probably at fault.

If you have a smoke unit the code should be 8 not 6. The wrong code may put the unit in conventional. That’s what it sounds like you have.

I've tried reprogramming it a few times with 4, 5 ,6, and 8.  No luck.  I do notice the instructions are for R2LC but it's and R4LC. Does that matter?

I'll have open up another engine to get an R2LC to test with.  

Not to state the obvious -- but when programming did you start with ENG, then the engine #.......?

Ok.  I switched in another R4LC from another engine and it runs perfect!  

There is no smoke unit or lights hooked up to the feature port of the board.  

Since a different R4LC works, do you think it's the board that is bad or the programming I did?

I did the ENG ## SET, before doing the feature set yes.  Do you have to do that every time or just once to set the ENG #?

I suspect it's the board, but put the old one back and program it the same way as you did this one.  If it still fails, call Ken at ERR, they're pretty good about replacing bad parts.

A wrong programming code will not put a ERR board into conventional, and even if it did it should still take off slowly until it ramped up.  It is a bad R4LC, I have seen this before and have one on the bench.  G

GGG posted:

A wrong programming code will not put a ERR board into conventional, and even if it did it should still take off slowly until it ramped up.  It is a bad R4LC, I have seen this before and have one on the bench.  G

Not according to the installation instructions.

An unprogrammed Cruise Commander will indeed take off pretty quickly when you apply power and crack the throttle, I don't see any significant ramp-up.  That also happens with no serial data input.

I followed the instructions.  I'm no Gunrunnerjohn but I've done it a few times.  And there is zero ramp up... just full throttle!

gunrunnerjohn posted:

An unprogrammed Cruise Commander will indeed take off pretty quickly when you apply power and crack the throttle, I don't see any significant ramp-up.  That also happens with no serial data input.

Who said unprogrammed?  I said a wrong code number.  The codes control how the output signals function, smoke or cablight, beacon, directional lighting, etc...  G

There really is no "wrong" code number, at least not the ones that were mentioned.  AUX1 and codes 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 are all valid programming codes for use with the CC or CC-M.

GGG posted:

A wrong programming code will not put a ERR board into conventional, and even if it did it should still take off slowly until it ramped up.  It is a bad R4LC, I have seen this before and have one on the bench.  G

Just trying to help. Here’s where my info comes from.

I'm pretty confidant we've got a bad board here.   I'm going to contact them tomorrow or Tuesday to see about a replacement. 

I have the same situation.  Installed CC in a older Lionel Frisco 2-8-2 today.  Set it on the track applied power and it took off down the track.  Would not response to TMCC controller only halt.  Took out the R4LC and install one from a Aero Train I converted at Christmas and it response like it suppose to.  Tried the R4LC from the Frisco in the Aero Train and it takes off down the tracks.  I take it as a bad R4LC.  Contacted ERR today and waiting to hear from them.