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Some of my newer engines, especially my favorite engines, Lionel ES44AC BNSFs hit the manual throw pin on the Z Stuff Switch Machine when diverted to the turn out.  To solve the problem I called Z stuff to see if they have longer spring so we could off set the machine and clear the engine.  They do not have any longer springs.  There suggestion was to use a 16 or 15 guitar string for the wire and make your own.  #15 is the same as .015 Inch and #16 is .016 inch thick. Either wire works well.  I used what is called a 3 point plier from my dental office.  It turns out to be very easy to bend the wire and it works.  The strings are $.89 each at the Guitar Center.  The 3 point pliers are a little pricy from Henry Schein (http://www.henryschein.com) item Plier 200 Standard Clasp Ea #1008740 $34.  Supposedly Micro Mark has something cheaper that will work.

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Plow hits switch machine manual throw stem on Lionel ES44AC

 

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Stem removed to allow clearance on Layout for immediate cure. Bad Move!

 

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#15 guitar string to be used for custom springs

 

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3 point dental plier to make angle bends, 0-appx 135 degrees

 

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Top spring is longer than bottom Z Stuff original spring allowing machine offset

 

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90 degree bend with one squeeze

 

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Start of multiple bends

 

Summary, guitar string makes great material for springs.

Dental pliers make it pretty easy.

 

Thanks for looking

 

Buzz

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Last edited by tplee
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Mike, I think making the loop higher or longer would give you the result you want so that the wheels don't ride up and derail but push the points over.  Your comment about the shape might also effect the spring tension, a round loop vs a square loop.  You might also try going to a smaller string size, i.e. a #14 or #13 if they make them. The problem is that if not tight and strong enough you might be picking the point, in the other direction.

 

Buzz

Last edited by tplee

We did that in some areas but couldn't accommodate that solution every where, without cutting ties and rewiring, several areas it was just not feasible.  Part of our problem is that we use the point contact to ground for the switch LED position indicator. We are pretty certain when the LED is lit we won't pick a switch in a covered staging yard.

 

Thanks for the reply

 

Buzz

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