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I am not a nut on authentic consists but I am curious about this one.  In 2005 LOTS produced a two car Virginian hopper set and one of the cars had an ETD.  Considering, ETDs appear to have started to become common in 1969 (per Wikipedia) and N&W acquired the Virginian in 1959, it seems possible a 100 ton Virginian hopper could have survived for ten years to have an ETD. 

OR, did N&W repaint rolling stock quickly after the merger?

Another option, were these cars supposed to be legacy rolling stock and was there ever such a car?

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The LOTS car is a fantasy paint job.  VGN's hoppers were all black with white lettering.

I never saw an EDT on the Burlington or the IC (my local roads) in 1969.  It was the Florida East Coast that first adopted them in 1969 to cut labor costs during a long strike.

EDT's didn't really become common among other railroads until the early 80's and it didn't happen overnight.

Rusty

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Ken and rusty,

Thanks for the insights, I had wondered about this since I bought these (I also have the non ETD one of the pair) at York a few years ago.   

I also have this one in yellow  paint and it must be fantasy too from Lionel's imagination -Note the NS heritage description on the box

It was hard to imagine any railroad spent money on heritage paint for rolling stock..... 

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Jim Berger posted:

ETD's were not used until cabooses were eliminated from freight trains in the early - mid 1980's....not sure if wikipedia is correct on that 1969 date..

That date might be related to the Florida East Coast RR, which actually "invented" the ETD, or "FRED" as we know it today. When I was promoted to EMD District Engineer in the fall of 1967, FEC was one of my customers, and they were no longer using cabooses on their main line trains. Each lead locomotive had the "Mary" device, and the rearend carried "FRED".

my thoughts, no ETD on a virginian  car and definitely no car was ever painted yellow.

Correct, and correct!

 

I found the first ETD I ever saw... this century. I live maybe 100yards from an old GT line (still active).  I hadn't seen many without a caboose before that time either.

  After a few minutes a hi-rail pulled up nearby and the guy was looking for "something".. I whistled and pointed, he waved.   I figured it was a tester of some kind, with a transmitter.   It looked like big yellow walkie-talkie without speaker/mic holes to me back then. Heavier than it looked too.

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