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Yes, I have been a fan for as long as I car remember.  I love the cab forwards and GS series northerns ( I have 2 of each.)  There is a 10 wheeler in a park not far from where I live that I played on as a kid.  Loved the Vandy tender.  I have diesels (F-3 black widow, Baldwin AS616, U-50) also but I really love the steam.  I have been looking for a 3 cylinder 2-10-4 for a while but have not found anything I can afford.

 

Rolland

When I was in HO I was modeling EsPee. I had (still have) Cab Forward, GS4, KM diesels etc. I modeled the desert SW.

When I came to O the first thing I bought was a MTH N&W 611 J. So that kinda moved me to the east. (I had moved from So Cal and ridden behind 611 so...)

I have bought a Cab Forward, PA's and GS4 in O now along with Daylight passenger cars....but they run in the east!!!

Most certainly. I will not hesitate to say I probably have every contemporary book on the Southern Pacific to date, some doubles and triples. A steam assortment of AC-12, A-3, MK-6, MT-4 and GS-4s. Early diesels F-7s, GP-9s, FM Trainmaster, RSD-4s, Alco S2s,

SW-1 and SW-8. Later diesels GP35, U33C, SD40-2Ts, GP60s, B39-8, B40-8s and C44-9.

GGD Daylight set, Coast Mail train and assorted SP rolling stock. Sunset C-30-1 wooden caboose, C-30-4,5 & 6 bay window cabooses and a few two SSW wide vision cabooses.

Probably forgot a few. Totally lost my mind with the S.P. 

I'm a big SP fan.  My grandfather was a railroad car inspector in the Roseville Yard and later in the Bayshore Yard (which no longer exists).  I grew up a few blocks from the Bayshore Yard and saw SP trains all the time (mostly switch engines and lots of freight cars, plus the commutes). I have many SP trains in my collection, mostly in O Gauge, but also a few in HO and N and recently (at Christmas) got my first S Gauge SP train (an American Flyer docksider set).

Growing up in San Francisco in the 50's and 60's, the SP was a San Francisco tradition; SP Headquarters and hospital were here. My dad was an SP fan and I inherited it from him. My favorite is the Daylight which I got to see first as the Freedom Train in 1975-76 in San Francisco and Oakland. Once again in 1981 at the Sacramento Railfair.

Rail Fair 1981 002

South SF 1991 006

Rail Fair 1981 002

South SF 1991 006

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When I was living in littlerock, Ca. The SP Palmdale Cutoff passed about 1,000 yards from our front door. Trains would rattle the house like an earthquake. I have been a big espee fan for years. My only complaint was growing up that Lionel did not make S.P. Motive power, just a few pieces of rolling stock. I got back into toy trains after a long hiatus and started to buy S.P. Locos and Rolling stock to make up for my deprived childhood. I now have a larger collection of Post-war and modern lionel than I had as a kid. Now I need to find a Black Widow F-3 shell to replace the badly repainted early Amtrak shell my one postwar F-3 wears now.

For many years I lived just a few blocks from the roundhouse and shops in El Paso. They were originally built for the El Paso and Southwestern which became Southern Pacific in 1924.  I watched the end of SP steam in that area from the Austin

street viaduct.

SP bought EP&SW because they were fierce competitors, at one time threatening to build from Tucson to Los Angeles to compete...even buying land for yards in LA.  I suspect it was a bluff...but it worked and SP paid a good price for the property.

Some iconic SP engines were actually built for the EP&SW...some very handsome Mountains some to mind.  So yes, I am an SP fan, particularly those parts that were the old EP&SW.

   Now Bob Turner can add to this and correct any errors.  I won't be offended, Bob.

I know you are the SP and EP&SW expert.

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Yes, probably one of the bigger fans on this forum.  Enough of a fan to know that the written alternate abbreviation for SP is Espee, not EsPee!  Pshaw, back to school with you, Forrest! 

 

 

Was born in raised in a town where the SP's mainline went right through the middle of town.  Was born too late for steam, but my father, also a big Espee fan, grew up seeing Cab Forwards thundering through town almost daily.  So for me it was Scarlet & Grey all the way:  hood units, including Geeps, Tunnel Motors, Etc.  The Sacramento Northern (WP subsidiary) used to lease the mainline and freight hauls between Sacramento & Chico in the middle of the night until UP bought WP out (Burlington Northern used to run on the SP mainline though here once in a while too), and WP also ran on the other side of the Feather River from my town so I would see that often too.  Donner summit was just a hour & a half/two hour road trip to see all that action there. 

 

But when it's all said & done, Espee was and always will be my favorite road.

If I didn't love The Milwaukee Road I would have to be building an SP layout. My first train ride was in 1952 or 53 from Los Angeles to San Francisco on the steam powered Daylight. Lots of steam then. Vicky my wife's dad worked in the Oakland shops as a welder. He would take her to work when she was a little girl and make everyone breakfast cooking with his welding equipment. Don

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I am a big fan of the Espee, but I also like several other roads. That said, I have several steam and diesel engines for the SP as well as various passenger and freight cars. 

I have on order the Ten Wheel (6-82270 cab #2353) by Lionel.  The thing I can't figure out is why they have a coal tender shown with it. My research shows that it had a Vandy tender and was oil fired. I hope they correct this when it is released.

Originally Posted by scale rail:

I'm not but my buddy Matt is "SP all the way" We worked on the DVD about The SP 2472. Don

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Yes...Don...I'm SP all the way.  And...we had a great time filming.  It was fun being your "sound man."  One of the greatest steam...and SP experiences of my life!  Matt

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