FasTrack switches with reversed lights

Check the controller wire connections under the switch to verify that they are in the correct location. Alternatively, disconnect the controller and test the command operation.

Are they new?  Call/return to the vendor . Contact Lionel customer service regardless.

It would have to be a factory error if it is not the controller wiring.

I just bought them Monday from my local hobby shop. I’ll take ‘em back.

The wiring is indeed reversed internally. I perform this mod when I need diverging to be the Main and thus indicate green. It is a non-trivial bit of work so yes, you just need to return them.

Lew 

geysergazer posted:

The wiring is indeed reversed internally. I perform this mod when I need diverging to be the Main and thus indicate green. It is a non-trivial bit of work so yes, you just need to return them.

Lew 

Is this something you can describe? I could reverse your procedure to set things as they should be. Or, of course, just do as you do, and find a place where diverging is Main. I have some ideas. I'm posting because I now have a third bad switch (I returned the first two). The new, bad LH 072 turnouts I bought are packed in clear molded plastic vs. the older white styrofoam.

I took the backs off the new switch and a working 072 LH switch and couldn't for the life of me see any difference. What a mess of wires and hot glue! I did notice that the new switch had the track jumper and AUX power wires reversed and I fixed those - but that didn't change the red/green indicator mixup. I tested the anti-derail function and it's working correctly. If it's a bad PC board I probably can't fix that, but I'm certainly comfortable soldering little wires.

Thanks for any help! I noticed that Lionel customer service is moving and shutting down until July. I can go back to my hobby shop, of course, but they'll probably think I'm running some kind of a scam. At some point though, someone else will get a mixed up turnout.

I have six 048 turnouts the same way. The AUX power wires were wrong. I have that problem fixed and now I'm working on trying to get the lever to be green going straight and red to turn. The controller is wired correctly at switch. It's something inside of it.

guyeh posted:

I have six 048 turnouts the same way. The AUX power wires were wrong. I have that problem fixed and now I'm working on trying to get the lever to be green going straight and red to turn. The controller is wired correctly at switch. It's something inside of it.

Guy,

What you need is a digital meter to check the DC voltage between the GND(black) and the RSC (yellow) terminals on the switch. The light in the controller illuminates green with +5 volts DC and RED with -5 volts DC. The voltage polarity is changed internally in the switch circuitry. 

The yellow wire needs to connect to whichever terminal has +5DC when the switch is in the THRU position. use the multimeter to find it.

The wire reversal that you made may have changed the internal polarity of the DC output.

OK. I'll try that. Thanks.

Moonman posted:

guyeh posted:

I have six 048 turnouts the same way. The AUX power wires were wrong. I have that problem fixed and now I'm working on trying to get the lever to be green going straight and red to turn. The controller is wired correctly at switch. It's something inside of it.

Guy,

What you need is a digital meter to check the DC voltage between the GND(black) and the RSC (yellow) terminals on the switch. The light in the controller illuminates green with +5 volts DC and RED with -5 volts DC. The voltage polarity is changed internally in the switch circuitry. 

The yellow wire needs to connect to whichever terminal has +5DC when the switch is in the THRU position. use the multimeter to find it.

The wire reversal that you made may have changed the internal polarity of the DC output.

Moonman, 

I did what you suggested with no luck. The automatic non-derailer  also was backwards. I would roll a truck across it and would flip the wrong way but had the correct lights illuminated on the controller for the way the switch was thrown. I took out a schematic and traced ALL of the wires and found the micro switches were on the wrong side and the pins in the connector to the board were also backwards. Works great now. Thanks for your input.

guyeh posted:

Moonman posted:

guyeh posted:

I have six 048 turnouts the same way. The AUX power wires were wrong. I have that problem fixed and now I'm working on trying to get the lever to be green going straight and red to turn. The controller is wired correctly at switch. It's something inside of it.

Guy,

What you need is a digital meter to check the DC voltage between the GND(black) and the RSC (yellow) terminals on the switch. The light in the controller illuminates green with +5 volts DC and RED with -5 volts DC. The voltage polarity is changed internally in the switch circuitry. 

The yellow wire needs to connect to whichever terminal has +5DC when the switch is in the THRU position. use the multimeter to find it.

The wire reversal that you made may have changed the internal polarity of the DC output.

Moonman, 

I did what you suggested with no luck. The automatic non-derailer  also was backwards. I would roll a truck across it and would flip the wrong way but had the correct lights illuminated on the controller for the way the switch was thrown. I took out a schematic and traced ALL of the wires and found the micro switches were on the wrong side and the pins in the connector to the board were also backwards. Works great now. Thanks for your input.

I am surprised that there is this bad inventory still around. Good work tracking it down!

Moonman posted:

guyeh posted:

Moonman posted:

guyeh posted:

I have six 048 turnouts the same way. The AUX power wires were wrong. I have that problem fixed and now I'm working on trying to get the lever to be green going straight and red to turn. The controller is wired correctly at switch. It's something inside of it.

Guy,

What you need is a digital meter to check the DC voltage between the GND(black) and the RSC (yellow) terminals on the switch. The light in the controller illuminates green with +5 volts DC and RED with -5 volts DC. The voltage polarity is changed internally in the switch circuitry. 

The yellow wire needs to connect to whichever terminal has +5DC when the switch is in the THRU position. use the multimeter to find it.

The wire reversal that you made may have changed the internal polarity of the DC output.

Moonman, 

I did what you suggested with no luck. The automatic non-derailer  also was backwards. I would roll a truck across it and would flip the wrong way but had the correct lights illuminated on the controller for the way the switch was thrown. I took out a schematic and traced ALL of the wires and found the micro switches were on the wrong side and the pins in the connector to the board were also backwards. Works great now. Thanks for your input.

I am surprised that there is this bad inventory still around. Good work tracking it down!

Unfortunately, there is.

Bought an O-36 one last week and the points stuck so badly at the travel ends that there wasn't enough power to move them. After returning it, went through three boxes at my LHS before finding one that worked without excessive sticking or binding of the switch points. These were also the "new" ones in the clear plastic and not the old Styrofoam.