It took a year and a half to find these two cars, and I seriously overpaid. I am lucky to have one of each. In tinplate, it seems I shouldn't even think of having several of the same car that I could run in a consist. I am planning a small collection of 2814r beer cars. I will add these to my custom 3 Stooges Beer car and hopefully, will add the Goetz Brewing car I ordered from the 2015 LTC catalog.
Maybe someday I will find the 260e Beer Train reefer set...
George