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Originally Posted by Big Jim:

I watched about 37 sec. of that and turned it off. Can't even hear the engines for all of the darn whistle blowing! 

Shays are notoriously quite on level track.  You've got three cylinders firing in rapid succession, sounding like you're going 60 at 10 mph. 

 

Starting J. Neils #5 (60 ton 3-trucker) under load at IRM there's be several quick somewhat loud chuffs, (3 or 4) but it doesn't take long to get to 10 mph and settle down a series of muffled machine-gun like chuffs, even with the Johnson bar in the corner.

 

Even during heavy switch moves, our Shay would never be as loud as a rod locomotive doing the same job.

 

Rusty

Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by Big Jim:

I watched about 37 sec. of that and turned it off. Can't even hear the engines for all of the darn whistle blowing! 

Shays are notoriously quite on level track.  You've got three cylinders firing in rapid succession, sounding like you're going 60 at 10 mph. 

 

Starting J. Neils #5 (60 ton 3-trucker) under load at IRM there's be several quick somewhat loud chuffs, (3 or 4) but it doesn't take long to get to 10 mph and settle down a series of muffled machine-gun like chuffs, even with the Johnson bar in the corner.

 

Even during heavy switch moves, our Shay would never be as loud as a rod locomotive doing the same job.

 

Rusty

All very true. However at Cass, what with those grades, their geared locomotives really make some stack noise.

Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by Big Jim:

I watched about 37 sec. of that and turned it off. Can't even hear the engines for all of the darn whistle blowing! 

Shays are notoriously quite on level track.  You've got three cylinders firing in rapid succession, sounding like you're going 60 at 10 mph. 

 

Starting J. Neils #5 (60 ton 3-trucker) under load at IRM there's be several quick somewhat loud chuffs, (3 or 4) but it doesn't take long to get to 10 mph and settle down a series of muffled machine-gun like chuffs, even with the Johnson bar in the corner.

 

Even during heavy switch moves, our Shay would never be as loud as a rod locomotive doing the same job.

 

Rusty

All the more reason to quit blowing that darn whistle!

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by Big Jim:

I watched about 37 sec. of that and turned it off. Can't even hear the engines for all of the darn whistle blowing! 

Shays are notoriously quite on level track.  You've got three cylinders firing in rapid succession, sounding like you're going 60 at 10 mph. 

 

Starting J. Neils #5 (60 ton 3-trucker) under load at IRM there's be several quick somewhat loud chuffs, (3 or 4) but it doesn't take long to get to 10 mph and settle down a series of muffled machine-gun like chuffs, even with the Johnson bar in the corner.

 

Even during heavy switch moves, our Shay would never be as loud as a rod locomotive doing the same job.

 

Rusty

All very true. However at Cass, what with those grades, their geared locomotives really make some stack noise.

HW's got that right.  All the proof you need is to stand at the front of the first car, right in front of the stack when Big 6 is taking a decent-sized train to Bald Knob.  You'll be treated to a solid 2.5 hours of deafening stack talk!

Last edited by 49Lionel
Originally Posted by Big Jim:
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by Big Jim:

I watched about 37 sec. of that and turned it off. Can't even hear the engines for all of the darn whistle blowing! 

Shays are notoriously quite on level track.  You've got three cylinders firing in rapid succession, sounding like you're going 60 at 10 mph. 

 

Starting J. Neils #5 (60 ton 3-trucker) under load at IRM there's be several quick somewhat loud chuffs, (3 or 4) but it doesn't take long to get to 10 mph and settle down a series of muffled machine-gun like chuffs, even with the Johnson bar in the corner.

 

Even during heavy switch moves, our Shay would never be as loud as a rod locomotive doing the same job.

 

Rusty

All the more reason to quit blowing that darn whistle!


You wouldn't hear much stack talk there on the ex C&O line - it is flat.  The good part begins when they start up-grade near the shop. 

 

For those that haven't been there, go to Cass.  It is a great ride, not only for people that love steam locomotives, but people that like scenery and being out in the wilderness.  Another example of how great Lima Locomotive Works was - not only could they build great rod locomotives, but the Lima geared Shays are great fun to watch and listen to.  And at Cass, they really get a work out.

Chuck,

   Thanks for the Shay video, great stuff, I have an old Clark picture of my Great Grandfather bringing his Shay down the mountain switch backs just outside of Galeton, Pa.  Your video of them double heading is how they brought them down the mountain switch backs with a 3rd engine out in front, guarding against any kind run away from the big log skeleton and high side chip cars.  

thanks again of the Shay Western MD video!

PCRR/Dave

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