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When I was researching who still makes old-style tubular 3-rail,  I stumbled onto this. It's a really bizarre sort of "O" gauge.

 

I don't know if this is a joke, a fraud, or serious research. You have to see it to believe it …  

 

http://www.tubularrail.com/PhotoGallery.htm

 

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The web site is certainly short on specifics. Apparently the propulsion system would involve motor-driven rollers in every support column. It's obvious that the "track system" needs very wide curves. What about power systems on-board? Has an operating model been built? Investors wanted, maybe?!

 

http://www.tubularrail.com/video.htm

 

What is the power source?

The power is provided though electrically driven AC motors.

 

How does the Tubular Rail car stop?

The braking system (non emergency) of the Tubular Rail system will rely on the creation of friction between the braking device and the resistance plate on the column.  However most routine braking is done by controlling the speed at which the rollers are rotating and when coming into a station the rollers actually serve to regenerate energy back to the grid.

Originally Posted by Ace:

The web site is certainly short on specifics. Apparently the propulsion system would involve motor-driven rollers in every support column. It's obvious that the "track system" needs very wide curves. What about power systems on-board? Has an operating model been built? Investors wanted, maybe?!

 

http://www.tubularrail.com/video.htm

 

What is the power source?

The power is provided though electrically driven AC motors.

 

How does the Tubular Rail car stop?

The braking system (non emergency) of the Tubular Rail system will rely on the creation of friction between the braking device and the resistance plate on the column.  However most routine braking is done by controlling the speed at which the rollers are rotating and when coming into a station the rollers actually serve to regenerate energy back to the grid.

At the demo, there would be electric "rails" on the cars, which would rub against rollers in the tubes.

 

For very shrp curves, turntables were offered as a solution.

http://www.tubularrail.com/background.htm

Background: Reinventing the Wheel by Removing It

 

OK, so there are no wheels on the "tubular rail passenger car", which provides some illusion of simplicity. But there are multiple guide "rollers" in every support column along the route! In effect, the rails and bridgework are integral with the train and the wheels are in the support columns. That's still plenty of wheels. And apparently all those wheels/rollers are intended to be powered for the system of propulsion.

 

I suspect there is lots of potential for weird noises and vibration with a pencil-train shooting through a series of holes in the support columns.

 

Although the concept is somewhat interesting, conventional high-speed rail as developed by the French and Japanese seems to be much more practical and adaptable.

Maglev is definitely off the ground in China and we can expect to see more commercial systems being built - mostly in other countries.

 

Chinese maglev trackside video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqAJemM6xYs *

 

German maglev

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO8b2Zp_aW8

 

Maglev toy train

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5el1A5B-h3Q

 

Maglev model demonstration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lmtbLu5nxw

 

And it's just a matter of time before we start seeing some Maglev model trains?

Originally Posted by Balshis:
Originally Posted by Kent Loudon:

Reminds me of SiFi story I read years ago.  It was called "The Highways Must Roll" and described an intercity highway system that was actually a complex set of conveyor belts! 

You're thinking of The Roads Must Roll, by Robert Heinlein.

Yes!  Thanks for the correction. 

Originally Posted by Kent Loudon:
Originally Posted by Balshis:
Originally Posted by Kent Loudon:

Reminds me of SiFi story I read years ago.  It was called "The Highways Must Roll" and described an intercity highway system that was actually a complex set of conveyor belts! 

You're thinking of The Roads Must Roll, by Robert Heinlein.

Yes!  Thanks for the correction. 

Nothing new...:

F&C Conveyor

Copyright: Heimeburger House Publishing 1985

 

Rusty

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Copyright: Heimeburger House Publishing 1985 

Rusty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Fallberg

 

Carl Robert Fallberg (September 11, 1915 – May 9, 1996) was a cartoonist and artist who created animated feature films and T.V. cartoons for Disney Studios, Hanna-Barbera, and Warner Brothers. He also wrote comic books for Disney Comics, Dell Comics, Western Publishing, and Gold Key Comics.

 

Carl had a lifelong passion for the “narrow gauge" railroad lines connecting the mountain mining towns of Colorado. This love of narrow gauge railroads in early mining communities was expressed through his cartoon drawings published in his Fiddletown & Copperopolis comic strip which appeared in Railroad Magazine. During the early 1980s, Carl compiled all his Fiddletown and Copperopolis cartoons into a book. The resulting "Fiddletown and Copperopolis - The life and times of an uncommon carrier" was published in 1985.

 

 

Interesting. Reminds me that there were a lot of coal slurry pipeline ideas back in the 1970's, which the railroads and environmentalists fought against.

 

In the US, Union Pacific supposedly has a plan to build a "maglev container shuttle":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maglev

Union Pacific Freight Conveyor: Plans are under way by American rail road operator Union Pacific to build a 7.9 km (4.9 mi) container shuttle between the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, with UP's Intermodal Container Transfer Facility. The system would be based on "passive" technology, especially well suited to freight transfer as no power is needed on board, simply a chassis which glides to its destination. The system is being designed by General Atomics.

 

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