GGD N&W Pocahontas

Who told you that is a "Pocahontas" set? The Pocahontas didn't use an observation car and the N&W didn't have a baggage/Combine car like that. I'm curious as to who really made these cars.

Nice cars Brandon. GGD makes great stuff. Those cars will look cool behind the 611. 

Very nice 

Big Jim posted:

 N&W didn't have a baggage/Combine car like that.

I would really like to see GGD make a correct Combine as an add-on car. Scott????

Your cars are great, Brandon!  I have an MTH Imperial J 611.  The PFA announcement says Pocahontas.  I bought a used Lionel 2-car set with a combine and a Pocahontas observation car.  I spent a good part of my 45 years in HO and N scales trying to be prototypically correct.  I got tired of that.  Since I run them on my fictitious Appalachian Lines railroad, they are good enough for me.

All that said, I agree it would be nice if the manufacturers would make the correct car and engine for the correct railroad, especially for big name trains.  However, I am happy with compromise.  Chances are running them in my home, I will be the only one who will ever know the difference.  If I take them to a show, I will expect someone to comment on them.  I will give the answer above.

Mark Boyce posted:

Your cars are great, Brandon!  I have an MTH Imperial J 611.  The PFA announcement says Pocahontas.  I bought a used Lionel 2-car set with a combine and a Pocahontas observation car.  I spent a good part of my 45 years in HO and N scales trying to be prototypically correct.  I got tired of that.  Since I run them on my fictitious Appalachian Lines railroad, they are good enough for me.

All that said, I agree it would be nice if the manufacturers would make the correct car and engine for the correct railroad, especially for big name trains.  However, I am happy with compromise.  Chances are running them in my home, I will be the only one who will ever know the difference.  If I take them to a show, I will expect someone to comment on them.  I will give the answer above  

My thoughts exactly there good enough for me.   Might not be exact, but there the closest thing I can afford to exact. Lol 

Gilly have you gotten your Powhatan Arrow yet?

To clarify, these are not the Powhatan Arrow cars. They are a generic 4 car set we called the "Finish Set" sold in 2015. Scott Mann

Nonetheless Scott, they are my Pocahontas cars and love them. Thank you. 

The combine, diner, and observation cars are correct cars for the B&O Columbian. The sleeper looks like an 18 roomette car which is not from the Columbian as that was an all coach train when introduced.

The only time a saw a water bottle behind a N&W J pulling passenger trains was with excursions.   Your train you so you do what you like!!!

DaveJfr0 posted:

what is a water bottle in train terms?

Auxiliary water tender. On the N&W they referred to them as "canteens". 

VGN64 posted:

The only time a saw a water bottle behind a N&W J pulling passenger trains was with excursions.   Your train you so you do what you like!!!

https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=112672

I appreciate that you respect my wishes to run a canteen and not criticize me for it. Lol

Brandon Cole posted:

VGN64 posted:

The only time a saw a water bottle behind a N&W J pulling passenger trains was with excursions.   Your train you so you do what you like!!!

https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=112672

I appreciate that you respect my wishes to run a canteen and not criticize me for it. Lol

Yes, the N&W put canteens behind the J class locomotives when they were bumped from passenger assignments and into freight service.  But, to each his own, I guess.

Ah yes!  That photo is a good find Brandon! 

https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=81911

Hot water is this photo from the 1950s or 1980s?

thanks. 

Brandon Cole posted:

https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=81911

Hot water is this photo from the 1950s or 1980s?

thanks. 

Not from the 1950s, as that is the crew car behind the auxiliary tender. Also note the twin sealed beam headlight on the auxiliary. Besides, I never saw an N&W canteen with that beautiful red stripe & lettering, back in 1957.

Hot Water posted:

Brandon Cole posted:

https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=81911

Hot water is this photo from the 1950s or 1980s?

thanks. 

Not from the 1950s, as that is the crew car behind the auxiliary tender. Also note the twin sealed beam headlight on the auxiliary. Besides, I never saw an N&W canteen with that beautiful red stripe & lettering, back in 1957.

Didn't think it was. Just wanted an expert opinion. 

Thanks

The picture from the N&W HS shows the dog house added to the J tender and the water bottle attached.   The dog house was for the brakeman working local freights.  All this took place in the late 50s as the Js were removed from passenger service as the rental E units and GP-9 passenger versions were being delivered.  Notice how dirty the J is.  For years the only picture we saw of the J with a dog house on the tender was one headed to Appomattox VA to work local freight and it was producing the worst black smoke you had ever seen.

Brandon Cole posted:

 

Gilly have you gotten your Powhatan Arrow yet?

Nope, not yet. I did getting a shipping notification showing a shipping label had been printed. Beyond that, nothing.

Scott's post is interesting, but I don't think he was referring to the unskirted Powhatan Arrow sets just received by GGD.

I'm showing that my package shipped today and is in transit. "Over the teeth and through the gums, watch out stomach here it comes!"