Why and when was this scheme used? Was it ever used in regular service? I was just wondering because I like the grey with yellow stripes but wondering how it was run.
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I prefer 844 in BLACK!
I don't think the 844 was in grey during the time it was in regular service on UP>
Sure she was.
Chris
pulled the portland rose in that livery, i think.
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
I don't think the 844 was in grey during the time it was in regular service on UP>
You would be wrong if you REALLY think that!
Taken 6/13/1990 (from rrpicturesarchive.net)
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I definitely do like that scheme however I can see how it would be a nightmare to keep clean. My personal favorite however was the all black scheme she carried When Steve Lee was in charge.
I definitely prefer the grey.
Not only were 4-8-4's painted in the greyhound scheme, but so were 4-8-2's and 4-6-2's, if memory serves. Of course they were in passenger service. Oh, heck, just remembered 0-6-0 #4442, which had a grey boiler, chrome cylinder covers and the colorful "Overland" UP herald on the tender! She was the Omaha Union Station switch engine. Overland Models did a nice O Scale version of her, as well as the 4-6-2's.
Originally Posted by mark s:
Not only were 4-8-4's painted in the greyhound scheme, but so were 4-8-2's and 4-6-2's, if memory serves. Of course they were in passenger service. Oh, heck, just remembered 0-6-0 #4442, which had a grey boiler, chrome cylinder covers and the colorful "Overland" UP herald on the tender! She was the Omaha Union Station switch engine. Overland Models did a nice O Scale version of her, as well as the 4-6-2's.
Mark,
Don't forget the Challengers assigned to passenger service. In fact, the two-tone gray paint styling was developed by the Albina Shops, out in Portland, Ore. In 1946, the Albine Shop painted Challenger #3976, took photographs of the "experiment", mailed to the photos off to Omaha Headquarters, and the rest is history.
Yeah. 3977 was in greyhound with yellow stripes last time I went through LBF.
My understanding is that the two tone grey w/Yellow stripes and lettering was used to help "Blend" the steam locomotives with the yellow/grey light weight passenger equipment until there were enough diseasels to fully cover the streamlined passenger trains.
When there were enough diesels to cover the streamliners, many/all? of the grey/yellow steam were repainted to two tone grey with Silver stripes and lettering, and reassigned to heavy weight passenger equipment with the two tone grey paint scheme, this I believe happened in/around 1949.
Hopefully, Hot Water or someone more knowledgeable than myself, can either correct, or add to what I have read.
Doug
Originally Posted by Ingeniero No1:
Taken 6/13/1990 (from rrpicturesarchive.net)
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Alex
Is it my imagination, or is 844's cab "tilted" in this picture? It looks like either that, or the stripes aren't straight...
Either that, or I'm 
. Most likely I am.
Originally Posted by mlavender480
Is it my imagination, or is 844's cab "tilted" in this picture? It looks like either that, or the stripes aren't straight...
No, you are not "seeing things". The rear of the cab on 844 used to droop downward. Even photos of 844 in "regular service (freight)" back in the mid 1950s, show the same cab droop.
During the 1999 to 2005 boiler/firebox rebuild, the cab had to be removed, so that "droop" was corrected. Thus photos from 2005 thru to today her cab is "straight".
Does the striping on the tender match the window stripping on TTG cars?
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
Does the striping on the tender match the window stripping on TTG cars?
Since there are no UP two tone gray cars, and the 844 is no longer two tone gray,,,,,,,,
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
Does the striping on the tender match the window stripping on TTG cars?
Since there are no UP two tone gray cars, and the 844 is no longer two tone gray,,,,,,,,
Was refering to the time after WWII.....not now. Let's don't give the steam manager any ideas!
Originally Posted by challenger3980:
My understanding is that the two tone grey w/Yellow stripes and lettering was used to help "Blend" the steam locomotives with the yellow/grey light weight passenger equipment until there were enough diseasels to fully cover the streamlined passenger trains.
When there were enough diesels to cover the streamliners, many/all? of the grey/yellow steam were repainted to two tone grey with Silver stripes and lettering, and reassigned to heavy weight passenger equipment with the two tone grey paint scheme, this I believe happened in/around 1949.
Hopefully, Hot Water or someone more knowledgeable than myself, can either correct, or add to what I have read.
Doug
I always thought that the two-tone grey with silver stripes came first, then later they went to yellow stripes. Can anyone give us the correct sequence of stripes?
Stuart
Originally Posted by Stuart:
Originally Posted by challenger3980:
My understanding is that the two tone grey w/Yellow stripes and lettering was used to help "Blend" the steam locomotives with the yellow/grey light weight passenger equipment until there were enough diseasels to fully cover the streamlined passenger trains.
When there were enough diesels to cover the streamliners, many/all? of the grey/yellow steam were repainted to two tone grey with Silver stripes and lettering, and reassigned to heavy weight passenger equipment with the two tone grey paint scheme, this I believe happened in/around 1949.
Hopefully, Hot Water or someone more knowledgeable than myself, can either correct, or add to what I have read.
Doug
I always thought that the two-tone grey with silver stripes came first, then later they went to yellow stripes. Can anyone give us the correct sequence of stripes?
Stuart
May I suggest that someone contact the Union Pacific Historical Society.
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Stuart:
Originally Posted by challenger3980:
My understanding is that the two tone grey w/Yellow stripes and lettering was used to help "Blend" the steam locomotives with the yellow/grey light weight passenger equipment until there were enough diseasels to fully cover the streamlined passenger trains.
When there were enough diesels to cover the streamliners, many/all? of the grey/yellow steam were repainted to two tone grey with Silver stripes and lettering, and reassigned to heavy weight passenger equipment with the two tone grey paint scheme, this I believe happened in/around 1949.
Hopefully, Hot Water or someone more knowledgeable than myself, can either correct, or add to what I have read.
Doug
I always thought that the two-tone grey with silver stripes came first, then later they went to yellow stripes. Can anyone give us the correct sequence of stripes?
Stuart
May I suggest that someone contact the Union Pacific Historical Society.
Info on UP two tone gray:
http://utahrails.net/up/ttg.php
Rusty
Challenger 3980: "diseasals".........you win this week's humor award!!
