Hafner engines

I have not seen anything to help narrow the time frames down.

Steve

The only definitive date was when they were first offered for sale, which is 1938.  The actual number for the loco was taken from the address of their plant, 1010 North Kolmar Ave.,  in Chicago.  The 1010 came in 4 Types, and multiple variations numbering over 30, throughout their years of production.  Variation were colors, placement of rivet detail and other minor details in the stamping.  There is quite a bit written, (without specific dating) in Greenberg's Guide to Early American Toy Trains.  The book covers Carlisle & Finch; Hafner; & Dorfan. The 1010 was made all the into the early 1960's.

Thank you for the information.  I was afraid of that.

  Kevin

The e-book reference CD "Wyandotte Toys Are Good and Safe" by Gary Konow (2002) has an entire section on prewar Hafner. The All Metal Toy Company (Wyandotte) did not acquire the Hafner name until 1946. They grouped the 1010 in the 1935-'46 chapter with no specific mention of the release date but they do mention three different versions of the 1010 and a possible fourth.

The CD also has some information on the Plastimarx brand that was stamped from Hafner patterns bought by Marx when All Metal discontinued train production and sold in Mexico where they posed little threat to Marx's train business.

Thank you Jim, i will look for that cd.

    Kevin

Hi folks ,. I know this is a year later ,. I see the odd 1010 with sand domes and have been looking for any info as to when made ,. they seem to be a bit rare and not talked about. I picked up a set -nice.

  Thanks, Mike

2-2-twainguy posted:

Hi folks ,. I know this is a year later ,. I see the odd 1010 with sand domes and have been looking for any info as to when made ,. they seem to be a bit rare and not talked about. I picked up a set -nice.

  Thanks, Mike

Mike

There is no good definitive guide that I'm aware of, but I see the domed type in the 1940 & 41 catalogs.

Steve

Thank you for the reply Steve ,. If only made 40-41 then production stopped for WW11  ,.  prehaps none made after the war because of the extra cost involved.

     I often wonder if the good train sets we see once belonged to soldiers who never made it home.

Louis Hertz and the TCA both verify the 1010 was first offered in 1938, according to the book Early American Toy Trains, but there is no breakout on when each of the 4 versions were produced. Yours would be considered a Type 2 of the 4.

Thank you Jim for info ,. right now cleaning up 3 different M--- windups.

  Mike