Help identifying Lionel trucks

The one in the second photo looks to be more modern, the one in the third photo looks to be post-war style truck and it seems to be missing the release lever.

Lee F.

They're either from the MPC/Kuhn era or K-Line knock-offs.    

Rusty

The Symington is 600-9176-050. It was first used in the NYC bay window caboose in the Empire State Express set in 1976. Also used in the 027 Amtrak cars of the same era.  The second is the passenger car truck from the W&A General set in 1977. I would have to look up the part number if you need.

Chuck

Thank you for the replies!

And a special thank you to Chuck for the part number on the Symington truck and the lead on the archbar truck.

Now that I know that the other truck was used on the W&A general set, I should be able to look it up myself.

I just realized, scratch the 027 passenger cars, they used a different truck. I think the first one was unique to bay window cabooses only.

Chuck is right on the ID and the "where-used."

The arch-bar truck is 600-9551-080, although I don't recall seeing this particular combination of parts before. This truck usually had the 6403-52 pin holding the coupler shank to the truck (like the truck on the right). This one has a screw, which I didn't think came along until later when the coupler centering springs were changed from the "bug antenna" (like yours) to straight with corresponding notches cut in the truck frame.

Your other truck is a 600-9174-050. (Chuck's last digit of the root number was off.)

Hope this helps.

TRW

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The arch-bar truck is 600-9551-080, although I don't recall seeing this particular combination of parts before.

I think the truck could have been assembled by the seller.

Thanks!

I have used the screw like shown when the retainer pin broke off the retainer, as these were heat melted to the truck sideframe assembly.